RFID device zapper unveiled at 22nd Chaos Communication Congress

On what charge? ;)~

Seriously though, all punsmanship aside, what's illegal about generating an electromagnetic field near a semiconductor that you own?

Bob

Gotta agree - if I buy something that happens to have an RFID tag, what's illegal about me blowing it away? I could see the point if I went to the local WalMart / ASDA with an EMP generator ;)

Cheers

PeteS

Maybe, maybe not. I sorta like the idea of keeping the store honest - when I want the tag zapped, I mean zapped, not 'asleep'.

They can also be sent to sleep - and reactivated later. Lots of mealy mouth answers from manufacturers on that issue - enough that I don't trust them. Like I said, if it's mine, I'll zap it if I wanna ;)

Cheers

PeteS

Yep. Get caught with one and do hard time, and good riddance ;-)

...Jim Thompson

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| 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

That's my point. Just because an object has the potential to be used for illegal purposes doesn't make the thing itself illegal. You could walk into a store with an EMP RFID zapper in one hand and a shopping bag in the other and use one to defeat the anti theft device and the other to conceal stolen property if you were of such a mind. Do we need to register and regulate the use of bags too?

Bob

PS I live in California where we have a Goddamned law, regulation, code, tax and fee on everything imaginable, so I'm a bit touchy on the topic.

Do you seriously believe that developers of an RFID zapper are doing it for "personal privacy" reasons? They're common thieves, of the same ilk as those who think music IP should be free.

Clothing RFID tags are normally zapped at POS (point-of-sale) so you can go out the door without alarming.

Since I've been involved in the development of several RFID systems maybe I should add explosive results from field overload ?:-)

...Jim Thompson

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I love to cook with wine.      Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Watching too many soap operas, or reading too many sci-fi magazines?

Where are you getting these BS ideas?

...Jim Thompson

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I love to cook with wine.      Sometimes I even put it in the food.

I just love those terms "sharing" and "for educational purposes only" ;-)

...Jim Thompson

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|  Analog Innovations, Inc.                         |     et      |
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I love to cook with wine.      Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Not a problem. That's what tinfoil hats are for. ;)

Bob

No need to. Fingers have been barcoded for millennia. Even works to distinguish identical twins, unlike DNA.

So you've been Californicated ?:-)

Can someone demonstrate the existence of a "smart" RFID tag that resides on a consumer product? I don't think so. I think you're being paranoid.

The range of passive tags is a few feet.

I know of very damn few active tags that can do much more than ten feet.

Privacy or theft ?:-)

(Besides... didn't you know that your skull was bar coded at birth? You just haven't looked up there ;-)

...Jim Thompson

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|  Analog Innovations, Inc.                         |     et      |
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|  Phoenix, Arizona            Voice:(480)460-2350  |             |
|  E-mail Address at Website     Fax:(480)460-2142  |  Brass Rat  |
|       http://www.analog-innovations.com           |    1962     |
             
I love to cook with wine.      Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Bwahahahahaha!

...Jim Thompson

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|  Analog Innovations, Inc.                         |     et      |
|  Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC\'s and Discrete Systems  |    manus    |
|  Phoenix, Arizona            Voice:(480)460-2350  |             |
|  E-mail Address at Website     Fax:(480)460-2142  |  Brass Rat  |
|       http://www.analog-innovations.com           |    1962     |
             
I love to cook with wine.      Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Natch!

...Jim Thompson

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| 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

Please do not confuse sharing (of information) with stealing (of stuff that costs money to replace).

i

Probably from looking at his browser cookie cache. ;-) I have to side with the "only good RFID tag is a dead RFID" folks. I certainly feel within my rights to kill any after I've made a product purchase. I really don't think that it will be long before we all see the wide spectrum of wrongdoings that can be committed via RFID technology, especially by marketing types.