report spam to google via this link

I think snipped-for-privacy@google.com is the right place to complain, as well as complaining to the source.

greg

Does anyone have even the most minuscule evidence that Google cares?

Would caring solve the problem of millions of random PCs making automated posts to unmoderated groups?

I would settle for the same type of statistical spam filters they use with gmail, which hides most of the stuff from view, even if it does nothing about the actual problem.

IMHO. YMMV.

"Ron N." wrote [from GoogleGroups] ...

No.

Solve? No. Reduce to a significant degree? Quite likely. Especially since mose of the recent spam storm is coming directly from their GoogleGroups and/or from posters using gmail accounts.

You should both note that many of us have already started blocking any posts from GoogleGroups, and the rest of us are *that close*.

And you believe this despite the hundreds of thousands of complaints that have already been sent to that black hole without effect?

I have taken executive action and no longer receive posts originating in google groups - apart from a couple of regulars here that I have whitelisted in my filter.

Where is you evidence for this?

Cheers

Ian

The recent spam storm isn't enough evidence?

Well, I can show you logs where I have sent a couple thousand myself over the past decade. Google is the largest volume server on Usenet and probably the least competently operated one.

--scott

Yes. It would require that the spammer create a new groups.google account every day by voiding any used to send spam. Google could refuse to establish new accounts for email addresses linked to past abuses. If they cared.

Jerry

I've complained often In reply, I get a blank email or the statement "We don't try to control content."

Jerry

But by allowing, even encouraging, the spammers they are having a large effect on the "content". And there's the rub. The SPAM is not "content".

rd

That doesn't work. Most people don't have a fixed IP address. It just results in huge numbers of innocent users being blocked. It can (and has) happened. And not just to customers of the Internet Provider You Love To Hate.

I just reported your post as SPAM to google! ... ... DOH :)

(jk)

Google don't care (and I'm a google user) Don't throw me rocks ..

If you look at the spam posted from IP addresses assigned to china, most resolve as non assigned. That means they are squatting on blocks of addresses with no legitimate users. Blocking those will not hurt anyone but the spammers.

You don't think spam is content. I don't think spam is content. Apparently, Google thinks spam *is* content.

Jerry

No, what you are referring to is just the fact that chinanet.cn.net has purchased huge blocks of address space, but then not SWIPped them to their customers... so in fact nobody has any clue whose space it really is or what it is being used for, all you can tell is that it's in China. If spam originates from that space, you can't figure out who to contact because Chinanet is the only thing registered with the NIC. It's shameful.

If you actually see something coming from unassigned space, like Network 10 or 192.168, it's a sign either you've misread the headers or the header line you're reading is forged. ONLY the top Received: line in the mail header is believeable, unless your mail server adds more than one in which case the top two might be. Anything else is provided by the site that passed the mail to your server, which is sadly often a compromised PC.

--scott

If only we were organized/motivated/intelligent enough these days to do that.

Which poster? Which claim? If Mr. Dorsey says the email isn't configured, I'm more inclined to believe him than I am to believe Google.

Google has amply demonstrated that they are quite comfortable being the largest commercial enabler of Usenet spam. There is no doubt about that in the perception of anyone who has been paying attention.