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> sci.electronics.design: > > > >> > > >> [about LOX, H2O2, etc.] > >> ... > >> >> > I don't know if such a thing would really work, or what > >> >> > its > >> >> > effects on an engine would be, but its a kinda cool idea. I > >> >> > might make tinkering with it a winter project. > >> > > >> >> You'll never get back the energy it took to liquefy the O2. > >> > > >> > Nothing is going to ignite until it is gas; that's what the > >> > intake and compression strokes are for. > > > >> Filling a TDC cylinder with liquid fuel and liquid O2, I bet they'd > >> ignite real good, if the LOX doesn't freeze the fuel; you might > >> need a lot of energy to make a spark through it, however. > > > > Liquids don't ignite. > > > > > If you are so very sure about, that i suggest that you try mixing > unsymmetrical di-methyl hydrazine (UDMH) and red fuming nitric acid > (RFNA) (glacial). Take very serious precautions and read the > relevant MSDS before making the attempt.

Do you understand the difference between combustion and a chemical reaction?

I thought not.

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Then, please educate us. What, exactly, is the difference between "combustion" and "a chemical reaction"?

Thanks, Rich

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In the common vernacular, combustion occurs when you light a candle and a chemical reaction occurs when you toss a chunk of sodium in water.

Or, in other words, things don't burn until the fuel is gas and the fuel/oxygen mix is brought to the ignition temperature, again in the common vernacular.

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Careful with that "common vernacular" stuff - Engineers probably don't like it very much.

Thanks! Rich

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Well, I'm an engineer and I like it, especially with a non-differentiated audience.

If the common vernacular fails, use equations.

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Yeah, I had that once. It was very painful.

John

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Did they give you penicillin for it?

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Cipro is my drug of choice.

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snipped-for-privacy@specsol.spam.sux.com snipped-for-privacy@specsol.spam.sux.com posted to sci.electronics.design:

How about you lookup hypergolic reactions? TWIT! You were given sufficient to learn better for yourself, but no you just attack.

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This is NOT a non-differentiated audience. Not much of an engineer, look up the chemicals as i have told you.

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The audience ranges from drooling, raving lunatics to Phd's with everything in between.

What would you call it?

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Please list any land vehicles whose internal combustion engines run on hypergolic reactions.

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sci.electronics.design? ;-)

Cheers! Rich

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And sci.physics and sci.energy.

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Gosh, I bet you get more wingnuts than we do!

John

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An understatement at best.

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snipped-for-privacy@specsol.spam.sux.com snipped-for-privacy@specsol.spam.sux.com posted to sci.electronics.design:

I do not know of any. But there are plenty of space vehicles that use this combination, precisely because it is a hypergolic pair. The one step upline issue was can liquids burn? These do.

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Actually, the issue was liquids burning in an internal combustion engine.

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Don't forget all the left hand threaded lugnuts. They are even worse.

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snipped-for-privacy@specsol.spam.sux.com snipped-for-privacy@specsol.spam.sux.com posted to sci.electronics.design:

It does not seem to be stated quite that way. Plus there is always the compression issue in an IC engine. Gasses compress but liquids don't.

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