OT: "Western Culture Has Died a Politically-Correct Death" (2023 Update)

Does a bull achieve civilization? Why are we concerned with the needs of a china shop? The shop owner can kill the bull, and the meat can partially cover the losses; he'll have to sue the bull's owner for the rest.

And, maybe he can peddle the security video of the bull to the local press...

Face it, you just love looking at a clown doing something spectacularly stupid. For enjoyment, check out some Three Stooges videos. Don't vote one into high public office, though.

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Unfortunately, neither the bull nor Trump has the discrimination to identify the "dusty junk that doesn't sell".

Nether does John Larkin.

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Well, assuming Congress gets Trump's tax returns, we will see how long it takes before some of it becomes public and what happens.

No, business tax records are not public, or Trump's would be out all over the place. You can't just request the tax returns for a business even if they are a publicly traded company. I don't know where you keep coming up with this misinformation.

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Is this the poll they got backwards?

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So do you believe polls or not?

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"However, the 55 percent figure actually represents the number of responden ts who said they hold unfavorable views of Trump. According to the survey,

41 percent have a favorable view of Trump. Of those polled, 52 percent disa pprove of Trump's job as president, compared with the 43 percent who said t hey approve."

I was wondering where that 55 number came from. Lou Dobbs is a Trump sycop hant, I wonder if it really was a mistake. Fact is, Trump has been consistently around 42% approval in averages of all the polls. It goes up a couple, down a few, but has stayed close to that for a year.

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ents who said they hold unfavorable views of Trump. According to the survey , 41 percent have a favorable view of Trump. Of those polled, 52 percent di sapprove of Trump's job as president, compared with the 43 percent who said they approve."

Some mistakes are less likely to get noticed than others.

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runs through a few examples from the history of the "scientific" examinatio n of the differences between the various branches of humanity.

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sets out all the polls. For some reason Rasmussen finds a significantly hig her approval rating for Trump than anybody else but when I looked at their figures they didn't show anything higher than 53% (which makes John Larkin' s claim a bit odd - maybe he got mislead by Fox News).

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igher approval rating for Trump than anybody else but when I looked at thei r figures they didn't show anything higher than 53% (which makes John Larki n's claim a bit odd - maybe he got mislead by Fox News).

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According to mainline polls, he lost the last election.

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George Herold wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:

Rasmussen, the Trumpanzee retard is about as stupid as it gets.

His polls are biased.

Almost as badly as John Larkin. Take off the horse blinders, Johnny.

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Remind me, is Hillary in the White House?

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Look at the various polls at the bottom. Only one got it right.

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Trump might not be perfect, but he's the best available for the foreseeable future. I'm looking forward to seeing what he does in his second term, because given all the shenanegans with abuse of legal process/Russia BS/appointee-churning and whatnot. Due to all that he has had his hands tied and was prevented from carrying out many necessary reforms. He really should have *3* terms, to be fair, given his first one has been so frustrated.

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Unions in Britain in the 1970s damn near wiped out the whole country! The one-time respectable trades union movement was hijacked by militant Trotskyist revolutionaries and they bloody near succeeded, too.

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Appointee churning? That's Trump hiring the best and brightest, tremendous people, then firing them one after the other, saying they are idiots. The problem there is clearly TRUMP.

Due to all that he has

The main thing preventing Trump from carrying out his many reforms is TRUMP! He's a lying, incompetent, narcissistic, impulsive mental case. A leader puts forth solutions, brings people together, sells his plan. Trump? He has no plan. For example, where is his miracle healthcare plan? The one ran on, with low premiums, coverage of pre-existing conditions, coverage for anyone, no mandate? Anyone with connected brain cells can figure out why that set of conditions is IMPOSSIBLE. Or the wall that Mexico was going to pay for? I heard that, I knew he was lying. Real leaders like Reagan lead and get things done. Reagan never once had a GOP House, only had a GOP Senate part of his two terms. Yet he got

80% of what he wanted done. And he did it without insults, name calling, or blaming Jimmy Carter. After election day, you never heard him mention Carter again. Trump? He's still leading "lock her up" chants and blaming Obama for whatever failures he can try to pin on him.

Trump's latest stupidity was just today. He's saying he may send alien detainees to sanctuary cities and states. It won't take long for the courts to block that, to say it's illegal. That's a good example of Trump. It made him feel good, it makes his trumpet base cheer, but it isn't going to happen. It's just stirring the pot, stroking his base and his own ego.

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That is silly. Stephen Jay Gould was clearly including himself in the misme asurers, and subtly emphasising his point in the process.

An associate professor of psychology at Utah Valley University who conducts research on advanced academic programs, human intelligence, and methodolog y isn't the kind of person you'd expect to notice this.

The rational approach to human intelligence testing is that it is a cheap a nd dirty substitute for the much slower and more expensive kind of testing we've been using for centuries, doesn't work nearly as well, and has differ ent kinds of inadequacies (and more of them).

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dents who said they hold unfavorable views of Trump. According to the surve y, 41 percent have a favorable view of Trump. Of those polled, 52 percent d isapprove of Trump's job as president, compared with the 43 percent who sai d they approve."

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He lost the popular vote by 2.9 million votes, which is effectively what th e polls are trying to predict.

Clinton got 48.2% of the popular vote and Trump got 46.1%, which is close t o his approval rating immediately after the election. It went down very rap idly thereafter and settled close to the current 42.1% as his defects becam e more obvious.

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John Larkin doesn't like recognising this and searches out misinformation t hat he finds more congenial, like the Ramussen popularity polls which seem to find more Trump-tolerant people to poll than any other polling organisat ion.

Rather like his approach to anthropogenic global warming ...

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Or so Cursitor Doom tells us. Trump has the attention span of five-year-old , and lies frequently, but Cursitor Doom doesn't see these faults - or perh aps doesn't see them as faults.

So far the Mueller investigation has lead to 34 individuals receiving indi ctments for federal crimes. Seven of these individuals have entered guilty pleas or been convicted.

This wasn't an abuse of legal process. Trump's involvement in the pay-off t o Stormy Daniels still has to be looked at - initially Michael Cohen lied about Trump's involvement, but he has now changed his story.

out > many necessary reforms.

Twaddle. He and his team can't come up with the kind of detailed proposal f or any kind of reform that Congress might take seriously. Trump hasn't got the attention span required to cope with the level of detail needed, and he won't tolerate advisors who try to inform him at the level.

His entire administration is looking more and more like a Keystone cops cre w, as the defects of the man at the top propagate down the tree.

Cursitor Doom at the top of his form.

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I was there at the time, and can't think of a single example.

Ted Heath passed the Industrial Relations Act in 1971, hoping to curb the p ower of the unions. It didn't.

"Two miners' strikes, in 1972 and at the start of 1974, damaged the governm ent; the latter caused the implementation of the Three-Day Week to conserve energy. Heath eventually called an election for February 1974 to obtain a mandate to face down the miners' wage demands, but this instead resulted in a hung parliament in which the Labour Party, despite gaining fewer votes, had four more seats than the Conservatives. Heath resigned as Prime Ministe r after trying in vain to form a coalition with the Liberal Party. Despite losing a second general election in October that year, he vowed to continue as party leader," but Thatcher kicked him out.

The conservative party seems to have been the only organisation that got wi ped out by union power, and Thatcher getting control of it wasn't seen as d estructive at the time. Then again, some people welcomed Pinochet "restorin g order" in Chile.

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Even Ramussen didn't get Trump's share of the popular vote right. They saw more support than anybody else (as they always do) but didn't get the popul ar vote split remotely correct.

Nate Silver's prediction at the time of the elction was that Clinton had th ree times better chance of winning that Trump, but he did point out that th is was a probability, and that in one quarter of the possible worlds that m ight come into existence after the election, Trump would have won, citing a recent sports contest where the 3:1 underdogs had won.

The polls do look at the popular vote, rather than than trying to forecast the electoral college, and the Russians did put a lot of effort into what t urned out to be the crucial states where Trump won with a rather thin margi n of 77,000 votes (probably all Russian-influenced - the Russians probably weren't conspiring with Trump, but rather preferred him as the candidate wh o would be least effective against them if elected).

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bill.sloman

That's the third kind of lie: you've misquoted 'mainline polls' as if they didn't report probabilities, but certain results.

If your pet theory needs the protection of repeated falsehoods, science offers a solution: euthanize that pet.

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whit3rd

The 70s was a union disaster of insane proportions. I'm saying nothing about the British car industry.

You'll only get more trolling from Bill.

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