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Does anyone remember this case?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hahn

I would have thought any parent that had such a child should be extremely  
proud of them. Certainly if this had happened prior to the 1980s, that  
would have been the case. Today such a young person would be smeared and  
feared as some sort of would-be terrorist weirdo and dangerous to the  
"community" (whatever the fuck that is). The authorities nowadays - in  
the West at any rate - despise and fear anyone unusually intelligent,  
curious and adventurous for their age. They seem horrified when a young  
person shows no interest in being enslaved by the entertainment industry  
and chooses to pursue something more challenging and rewarding instead.
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Re: OT: The Radioactive Boy Scout
On Sunday, April 15, 2018 at 12:57:01 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
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"He was subsequently treated for mental illness, and his death at age thirty-nine was related to alcohol use."  He died of alcohol poisoning and was a nut case.  Yes, a child to be proud of.  

Rick C.  

Re: OT: The Radioactive Boy Scout
On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 11:10:24 -0700, gnuarm.deletethisbit wrote:

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He was clearly too smart for his peers. Kids with unusually inquiring  
minds often struggle socially, having no one to relate to. Must have been  
a lonely existence. He was born on the wrong planet.




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Re: OT: The Radioactive Boy Scout
On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 9:42:37 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
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Albert Einstein and Richard Feynman coped with that particular problem, rat
her more successfully, probably because they were a whole lot smarter.

David Hahn might have been bright - though the fact that he was careless ab
out handling radioactive materials suggests that he wasn't all that clever  
- but he might also have been somewhere on the autism spectrum which would  
fit better with his dubious social relationships.

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Re: OT: The Radioactive Boy Scout
On 04/25/2018 01:37 AM, snipped-for-privacy@ieee.org wrote:
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Most people in the world know better than to pro actively invest a lot  
of time and effort in socially awkward loners, it's rare that doing so  
ever ends up being worth the time invested.

If they want to have healthy friendships and romantic relationships they  
have to choose to suck it up and get out there and interact with the hoi  
polloi like everyone else, social skills are learned through practice,  
trial and error like most things, it doesn't happen by magic.

If they can't find anyone else in the whole world that meets their  
exacting high standards to "relate to" then that's tough shit Your Majesty.

Re: OT: The Radioactive Boy Scout
On Wednesday, 25 April 2018 16:29:31 UTC+1, bitrex  wrote:
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obviously


no it suggests he wasn't mature. This is alll too obvious for slow man though.

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EE companies certainly did that. Patents can be a nice payback.

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loners are loners because they've done that & don't much like people

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Once the iq gap is over 30 points it's a futile exercise. Hiqers have an easier life of it if they pick other hiqers to socialise/date with.


NT

Re: OT: The Radioactive Boy Scout
On 04/25/2018 02:11 PM, snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:
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I don't think most really tried. I don't think they really wanted it. If  
that's the case then that's on them, not anyone else. I think a lot of  
people underestimate how much work it really is. It's cool if someone  
doesn't want to put in that work, but that isn't the fault of the world  
at large or other people.

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"Futile" in what sense? In the sense that it's the person's  
responsibility with the say 115 IQ in a relationship vs. 140 to  
do...what exactly. Understand you and your deeeeeeep complexity and  
amazeballs thoughts? Most lesser humans would say fuck off, bro, if that  
were the deal on offer. And they'd be well-justified in saying it - what  
is it that this braniac is bringing to the table other than a puzzle,  
anyway?

But I don't see any evidence in the real world that romantic  
relationships between super smart people are any less turbulent and  
dramatic on average than the "professional" ones between some of the  
super smart guys here.

Re: OT: The Radioactive Boy Scout
On Wednesday, 25 April 2018 19:29:13 UTC+1, bitrex  wrote:
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all but a rare few have spent time with people. They don't want it because they don't like them.


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futile in that attempting to understand each other just isn't going to happen. You can't have any genuine relationship between people that routinely misunderstand each other at every level.


NT

Re: OT: The Radioactive Boy Scout
On 04/25/2018 07:53 PM, snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:
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8 billion people in the world and can't find nobody to like? Sounds like  
a "their problem"

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Humans routinely misunderstand each other constantly, day in and day  
out, even people in friendships or marriages for 30 years. Welcome to  
life, sorry if u were expecting something different

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Re: OT: The Radioactive Boy Scout
On Thursday, 26 April 2018 01:24:38 UTC+1, bitrex  wrote:
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you're not really getting it are you.

Re: OT: The Radioactive Boy Scout
On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 17:57:48 -0700 (PDT), snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

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ShortBit is intentionally stupid.

Re: OT: The Radioactive Boy Scout
On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 11:44:17 AM UTC+10, snipped-for-privacy@notreal.com wrote:
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How would krw be able to work that out? Except to his own satisfaction, of  
course.

In fact the problem here is that NT has some silly ideas about clever peopl
e having problems communicating with less clever people (which isn't a prob
lem I've seen) and seems unwilling to accept that border-line autistics can
 look cleverer than they are because they concentrate on the problem they h
ave been given and won't pay attention to anything else.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney


Re: OT: The Radioactive Boy Scout
On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 10:57:53 AM UTC+10, snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:
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The defect is in your understanding, not his.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney


Re: OT: The Radioactive Boy Scout
On 04/25/2018 10:05 PM, snipped-for-privacy@ieee.org wrote:

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"People just don't understand me!" = "People don't kiss my ass and tell  
me how great I am all the time"

Re: OT: The Radioactive Boy Scout
On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 1:30:32 PM UTC+10, bitrex wrote:
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The "misunderstood genius" we had to put up with (though he wasn't actually
 a genius, though pretty bright) was perfectly well understood - he just di
dn't like dealing with other people. If you could shut him in a room with c
ircuit problem he could deal with in isolation he was just fine, but very f
ew of the problems we had to cope with were like that, and most involved lo
ts of talking to the people who were going to sell the gear, assemble it, c
alibrate it and so forth.

It wasn't design by committee but there were mostly lots of people interest
ed in any given design, who all liked to know what was going on, and liked  
to think that their particular problems were going to dealt with (as they m
ostly were).

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Bill Sloman, Sydney


Re: OT: The Radioactive Boy Scout
On Thursday, 26 April 2018 04:30:32 UTC+1, bitrex  wrote:
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it doesn't surprise me that bill is as daft as you

Re: OT: The Radioactive Boy Scout
On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 7:27:58 PM UTC+10, snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:
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It doesn't surprise me that NT thinks that. Around here, he seems to operate at about the same level as krw. Daftness would be an aspiration for him, rather than anything he could hope to achieve.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney


Re: OT: The Radioactive Boy Scout
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 02:27:53 -0700 (PDT), snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

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peas in a pod.

Re: OT: The Radioactive Boy Scout
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Krw has a simple classification scheme - either you agree with his silly id
eas or you don't. Anything more complicated would stretch his limited cogni
tive capacity beyond it's very narrow limits.

Bitrex and I are both smarter than krw - not exactly an ambitious claim - s
o we look identical to him. A more discriminating viewer might notice diffe
rences.

This does take us back to the proposition that intelligent people find it d
ifficult to interact with the less intelligent. In reality it isn't in the  
least difficult, but why would one bother? There are plenty of moderately i
ntelligent people around to interact with, so krw and NT can sit on the she
lf, where they belong.  

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

Re: OT: The Radioactive Boy Scout
On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 16:53:43 -0700 (PDT), snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

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Certainly not a healthy one.

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