OT: Stop Climate Change... NBC: Believers should stop having children...

I think healthy people gain some ability to write stuff like that off as they get older, or at least ideally they do. "Just get over it" isn't good advice as a short-term fix but in the long term a man really has to if he wants to have a life that has more happy times than not.

I know some men in their 40s who are clearly still angry and bitter about things that went wrong in their life in their teens and 20s. It's not a pretty sight and IMO not a very "masculine" way to be.

Reply to
bitrex
Loading thread data ...

Sure. Why not?

People used to say - if they were honest - so that I would have someone to look after me in my old age. Now we have pensions for that.

Reply to
David Brown

Cats ignore you in the sense that they do what /they/ want to do. The pay attention when they want something from you.

That should be a good while in the future for me, but I can appreciate the point.

Reply to
David Brown

Pensions?

Reply to
krw

Not true. If the cats aren't ignored when they're young, they'll not ignore you later. One of ours is always with one of us (the other is intimidated by #1).

Appreciate what you have. It goes way too fast.

Reply to
krw

Yes. They still exist. I have a pension from GenRad... the only place I was at long enough to vest (only because I was part of a start-up, OmniComp, that was bought out by GenRad). ...Jim Thompson

--
| James E.Thompson                                 |    mens     | 
| Analog Innovations                               |     et      | 
 Click to see the full signature
Reply to
Jim Thompson

I do too, from IBM, but I was grandfathered. No one who started after

1993 (IIRC) has one. They're almost nonexistent (like, zero) in the private sector, now. Governments are still pension happy because they don't care if they go bankrupt but corporations are a little more careful.
Reply to
krw

Well, it's definitely messed up for someone to have a kid because they want someone to look after them in their old age, like some fashion of indentured servant. If I'd had known the parent-child relationship was just intended to be a big quid-pro-quo I'd probably not have signed on for it but nobody gets a choice in that.

Pretty sure the Bible says "Honor thy father and mother" - not be their slave

Reply to
bitrex

The right may never be able to put a man on Mars, but to give credit where credit is due they must be at the cutting edge of youth-restoration technology, because these one-liners are certainly as good as anything I heard in 5th grade.

Reply to
bitrex

Second childhood isn't what's usually meant by youth restoration, but anyon e willing to take Trump seriously might be fooled.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
Reply to
bill.sloman

Yeah, the world has been messed up since day one but you're here to fix it. Typical leftist.

More typical leftist logic.

Reply to
krw

In most of history and most of the world, having children the best way of ensuring you would be cared for in your old age. That is /still/ a prime motivation in many parts of the world.

My neighbour has a daughter the same age as mine. We could have achieved the effect of our kids being slaves if we had

Exodus 21:7-11 King James Version (KJV)

7 And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.

I don't think the Bible has anything to say about what a fair price would be, though.

Reply to
Tom Gardner

Huh, OK, taking care of your family at the beginning and end of life is part of the commitment. That's not always the best part of the relationship, cleaning the dishes after a nice diner. But it's all part of family. At least that's my view.

George H.

Reply to
George Herold

Leftists have no interest in anything or anyone, except government.

Reply to
krw

Krw has a funny idea of what leftists might think, but his own ideas are strange enough that it makes sense that he thinks that people who don't share his ideas have even stranger rules and motivations.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
Reply to
bill.sloman

Sorry, I was talking about the developed world - I was not thinking of the situation in the USA where companies have rights and individuals do not.

Reply to
David Brown

Just another socialist mor>

Right, unlike your hell-hole, individuals have the right to be individuals. Companies never go under?

Reply to
krw

hout

ide to

ned"?

eone

not.

Norway isn't any kind of hell-hole. Quite the reverse.

formatting link

In the US individuals have the right to be individuals, but exerting any su ch right costs money, so in practice only rich individuals can afford to ex ercise this right.

Krw has the right to be an ill-informed right-wing partisan, and the Koch b rothers (amongst others) spend money on encouraging this kind of ill-inform ed support for their schemes for ripping off US taxpayer. Krw is dumb enoug h to think he is free, rather than cheap.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
Reply to
bill.sloman

Of course companies in Norway go bankrupt or close. That is why our pensions are not dependent on the fortunes of the companies we work for. The idea that you work for a company, and when you retire that /same/ company continues to pay you is insane.

Reply to
David Brown

The government paying you is sane? You're insane. Only an idiot wouldn't want to take care of himself, given a chance.

Reply to
krw

ElectronDepot website is not affiliated with any of the manufacturers or service providers discussed here. All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners.