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OT: Remote Access.

When I'm at my desk I access my Laptop and two PC's via a KVMP switch.

With the weather as nice as it is here in the Springtime of the

my patio via my wireless network... i.e. I want to emulate being the keyboard, monitor and mouse of my PSpice machine via my Laptop.

What's the best way to do that? ...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson
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An xterm over SSH.

Oh, wait, you run Windows. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Reply to
Phil Hobbs

if your windows isn't home versions remote desktop is build in and works very well

-Lasse

Reply to
Lasse Langwadt Christensen

Microsoft Remote Desktop, Or if not then TightVNC works well too.

Just make your spice machine a fixed IP address, so it doesnt change on you because of DHCP.

Cheers

Reply to
Martin Riddle

Years ago i used the "Brooklyn Bridge" today that does not work ofcourse, so we're left with things like the Remote DeskTop, VNC, PC anywhere etc..

Jamie

Reply to
M Philbrook

+1 on tightvnc. Cross platform, so you can run it on just about anything ever made. Works great from your phone, but it will eat thru your data plan with lightning speed.

Suggest you run the server as an application so you can start it only when needed. I don't think it's a particularly secure system.

Try to use the same version on all machines. Somewhere between V1 and v2, some protocols changed so some of the features aren't compatible between versions. Biggest deficiency is no sound.

I've never found a free desktop sharing app with sound that was sufficiently cross platform and didn't need a server in the middle to spy on you. If there is one, I'd like to hear about it.

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mike

If all your PCs have internet, we used TeamViewer at my last job for remote access and support. Worked quite well.

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Randy Day

Teamviewer: Runs on Windoze, Linux, OS/X, Android, IOS, and Win 8/RT. Free for personal use. I've tried various other remote control and admin programs, and found them lacking in various ways. Usually speed is a problem. Teamviewer is quite stable and very fast. If you run it on a small screen laptop, tablet, or smartphone, it will take some mental gymnastics to get used to the mouse pointer remaining in the middle of the screen, while the desktop moves around behind it.

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Jeff Liebermann

First, make sure you are using a "modern" WiFi (older encryption schemes are easily hacked -- unless you don't care about folks snooping on your data *or* accessing your machine alongside you... or, while you're "busy elsewhere").

Likewise, make sure you have replaced the "default" password/SSID with something a bit more secure.

[There are lots of other risk issues that you should consider; but, if you've already "made safe" your desktop machine, the same sorts of mechanisms can be applied to your wireless access (though that may require separate *steps*, depending on how your router is configured]

Thereafter, you could use Windows Remote Desktop (start at "My Computer | Properties | Remote" on the "desktop" machine to enable the protocol). Or, VNC (a freebie that you should be be able to easily find and install via google -- there are also commercial variants if you like to pay for things). Or, TeamViewer. Or, GoToMeeting. Or, ... (there are a LOT of options!).

Note that it won't be exactly the same as being *at* your desktop. Depending on the tool, bandwidth of your WiFi, amount of screen activity (and *where* it is located), you may find the "remote" to feel choppy/out-of-sync, at times.

For SPICE work, probably not an issue. Watching a full motion 1080p video that is *playing* on your desktop (over this channel) would be a different story. E.g., you may want to think about how you use things like Skype with this setup (maybe run skype *on* the laptop, directly, over the WiFi link to the Internet)

You could also just install the apps on the laptop and carry them with you!

Reply to
Don Y

Yup. WPA2/AES by choice, though it still isn't that good.

SoHo routers are notoriously insecure. I recently repurposed a couple of Netgear WND3700v4 units using OpenWRT, which is a much better protected system. Used ones are about $25 on eBay, so if you screw up and brick it, who cares? The distro installs really easily, so that wasn't much of a worry as it turned out.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Dr Philip C D Hobbs 
Principal Consultant 
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC 
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 

160 North State Road #203 
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 

hobbs at electrooptical dot net 
http://electrooptical.net
Reply to
Phil Hobbs

Greetings Jeff, My son set up Teamviewer for me and it works very well. I was going to mention it but you beat me to the punch. Eric

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etpm

Run a wire. I have "uncommitted" drops on the front and back porches, roof, at least two in each room (kitchen, living, dining, family, bedrooms, etc.), garage, store room, etc. Wire is cheap (though the labor to run it can be pricey).

You can also use a PLC modem -- I think you can get ~500mb/s performance, nowadays. Much less security risk.

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Don Y

I now live out in the boonies... I don't think my neighbors would know a microchip if they saw one. So I'm not worried about security. ...Jim Thompson

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| James E.Thompson                                 |    mens     | 
| Analog Innovations                               |     et      | 
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems  |    manus    | 
| San Tan Valley, AZ 85142     Skype: skypeanalog  |             | 
| Voice:(480)460-2350  Fax: Available upon request |  Brass Rat  | 
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com |    1962     | 
              
I love to cook with wine.     Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Reply to
Jim Thompson

I think remote desktop works better, for most things it is good enough that a KVMP switch isn't worth the hassle

The advantage teamviewer have is that it works from anywhere not just on your local network

-Lasse

Reply to
Lasse Langwadt Christensen

Well, there's Home Plug, Home Plug AV, Home Plug AV Enhanced, Home Plug AV2, Home Plug AV2 MIMO, and Home Plug 500. Nothing is simple with PLN (power line networking). These average about 70 Mbits/sec except for the MIMO stuff, which goes maybe 95-115 Mbits/sec. When I ran my own benchmarks on a Linksys PLEK500, I got about 45 Mbits/sec TCP using iperf3 over about 50ft of AC wiring. Still, that's plenty fast for what Jim is doing.

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Reply to
Jeff Liebermann

It's not the wifi that's the issue--the WAN side of most SoHo routers is very hackable.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Dr Philip C D Hobbs 
Principal Consultant 
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC 
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 

160 North State Road #203 
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 

hobbs at electrooptical dot net 
http://electrooptical.net
Reply to
Phil Hobbs

I'll talk to my son Aaron... I'm sure he'll know how to make it LAN-only. ...Jim Thompson

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| James E.Thompson                                 |    mens     | 
| Analog Innovations                               |     et      | 
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems  |    manus    | 
| San Tan Valley, AZ 85142     Skype: skypeanalog  |             | 
| Voice:(480)460-2350  Fax: Available upon request |  Brass Rat  | 
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com |    1962     | 
              
I love to cook with wine.     Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Reply to
Jim Thompson

What's *simple* is the "plug these into outlets near each end of your desired link"! Shirley, you didn't expect the simplicity to extend beyond that? :>

Probably... I run most of my sessions using the X protocol and can never really tell whether I'm in a "local" or "remote".

Reply to
Don Y

Easy--you can make an air gap just by unplugging it from the cable modem, but that does make it a bit less useful for surfing. ;)

Remote exploits of SoHo routers are as common as dirt, unfortunately. Doing a brain transplant with OpenWRT or DD_WRT is a pretty painless way of improving things.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs 
Principal Consultant 
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC 
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics 

160 North State Road #203 
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 

hobbs at electrooptical dot net 
http://electrooptical.net
Reply to
Phil Hobbs

screen connect can do it (but I think you need to pay for the server software)

VNC, and remote desktop are both peer-to-peer and so won't leave the lan unless aimed at outside addresses.

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Jasen Betts

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