OT: Large LCD monitors for PC

Hi Guys,

Last time I looked 30" monitors were well north of $1k, and 27" just under. This was only a few months ago. Doing the regular year-end perusal I didn't see 30" at the usual stores but stumbled upon 27" monitors starting at about $230 (Sceptre, never heard of the brand), to this ViewSonic for $300:

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This is the Sceptre:

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I suppose like usual, only online, but not sure. Reviews are great but are they good for serious CAD work? Any brands to prefer?

1920*1080 is a weird resolution. My PC doesn't have that. Strange.
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Toshiba 40" At $400.

Where the f*ck do you shop? Did they see you coming? Asus 27" at $339

This was only a few months ago. Doing the regular year-end

Lame.

I would never buy a unknown name brand from a cheap Chinese nobody with very likely ZERO service reputation.

Then you also have a SHIT graphics card, because that resolution has been in use for YEARS.

My 23" LCD Samsung is at 2048 x 1152 ! You can't even see the pixels.

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NONE of them are as pricey as you claim.

Here's an LED backlit one.

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Are you shopping from Siberia?

Even the 3D job is A third of your claims.

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ItchyGato

They're using cheapie 1080p TV LCD panels rather than the former standard 1920 x 1200.

I'm sure they don't compare to a 30" 2560 x 1600 monitor, but as you're getting around half the pixels for around 1/4 the price, maybe it's worth a look see, especially if your eyes don't like 0.25mm pixels.

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Spehro Pefhany

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Are you sure? Does your monitor support that resolution? If not, your computer won't offer it. If it does, you need a newer video card. The supported resolutions are stored in the EEPROM in the monitor and is read by your computer when it boots.

I ran a 23" HP CRT monitor with 2048*1536 on a typical emachines computer that would be six years old now with no problem other than the amount of memory it used.

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BTW, I know you like to aim at a 'maximum value' rather than performance price point, but others might find this interesting if they're running serious 3D CAD applications. Reportedly Solidworks is set to (re)introduce 3D display support.

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I think we do fine as is, but support of 3D displays (perhaps it will be stable in a year or two) would be a pretty cool development.

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Find a IPS panel, 16:10. Beware of the Dell tint issue, but they are lovely monitors ;D

Cheers

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Martin Riddle

Check eBay for used ones. Search for "lcd 2560 1600"

My setup has a 30" center monitor with a rotated 1200x1600 20" on each side, giving a virtual 4960x1600 workspace with no black bar down the middle. This works great for EDA - workspace in the middle, PDFs/browser/IRC on side monitors. I suppose you could do this with three 27" monitors, you just end up with a blank spot in your virtual desktop.

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DJ Delorie

All my people are using two monitors lately, like one for a schematic and the other for the PCB. They are threatening to sneak into my office and install duals for me, too.

John

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John Larkin

Sceptre is a fairly common, though cheapie, brand.

They just bought us Dell 22" 1620x1050(?) monitors. Junk! I doubt the Sceptre would be worse.

I have a Soyo 24" that I paid $270 for a little over three years ago. It's been a very nice monitor. I'm tempted to grab another, but I can't get a third monitor working.

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krw

You'll never go back.

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krw

2560 over 30" is a 0.29mm pitch, idiot.

My 23" at 2048 is 0.28mm.

AFAIK, there are still to this day, NO LCD panels with such a fine dot pitch on the pixels. Those are CRT day pitches.

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ItchyGato

It is total crap.

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They are both shit.

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AllInTheChi

You're the idiot this time. 30" and 23" are diagonal measurements. The dot pitches are 0.252mm and 0.249mm respectively.

The 27" 1920x1080 works out to 0.311mm, so Speff is right and you're wrong.

Reply to
Clifford Heath

It's grade 9 math:

16:10 aspect ratio, for 30" diagonal, the horizontal dimension will be 25.4" ~= 645mm so the pitch will be 0.25mm.

Utter nonsense. Medical grade monitors are available off-the-shelf that are 0.21mm pitch. Even my ancient (2002/2003) Philips 200P3s are

0.255 mm.

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Spehro Pefhany

If you're running windows there's usually a check box somewhere that stops it displaying resolutions the monitor can't handle.

Nial

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Nial Stewart

I said month ago, not today. And gave evben lower prices in my links. Oh, and I will not buy at Frys, absolutamente not.

Link?

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Ok, but what happens if the graphics hardware in the PC does not support this TV format? If that ends up blurring stuff it's not going to be good for CAD.

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For mechanical design I can see the value but the main reason for me is that I need this for layout reviews. Which I have to do at an increasing number these days, to advise on EMI improvements. Often you have to see the big picture but at the same time look at details, such as trace lengths to 0603 bypass caps. Right now on a 21-incher it's panning and zooming like crazy.

This is also why a dual monitor setup doesn't do much good here.

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My color vision ain't perfect anyhow (sez my wife, when I pick a tie ...). All I really care about for the monitor is resolution and sheer size. 30" would be great, 27" ok, 23"-24" wouldn't be worth it versus the (excellent) 21" CRT I have right now.

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Right click on screen, Display Properties -> Settings -> Advanced -> Monitor uncheck 'Hide modes this monitor cannot display'. Then back to settings to see your options.

This machine's 5 years old with a Matrox P650 and doesn't show 1920x1080 but any 'recent' card should handle it. (The P650 would probably handle it with a driver update).

Nial.

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Nial Stewart

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