OT: Huntington, WV

Trump is appearing in Huntington, WV, my home town, at 7PM EDT.

Observe a state ruined by Democrats... population less now than when I graduated from high school _59_ years ago.

No industry, but lots of bridges and monuments named for Robert Byrd (he of KKK fame).

No wonder most of the youth are drug addicts... they've lost all hope.

I was pretty much like that, without hope, in 1958... but I was determined to escape... applied to every engineering school imaginable _and_ the Air Force.

The scholarship offered by MIT settled the coin toss ;-) ...Jim Thompson

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| James E.Thompson                                 |    mens     | 
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The house where I grew up (from about age 5 thru age 18)....

...Jim Thompson

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| James E.Thompson                                 |    mens     | 
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Jim Thompson

WV is going to look like the surface of the Moon when the coal industry is through with it. At which point (since in WV that industry is allowed to "self-bond" against its own cleanup expenses, lol) they'll file Chapter 11 and taxpayers will eat the bill for all of it, a bill which will make the sum total of every electric vehicle subsidy ever given look like 50 cents by comparison.

If you think they'll ever pay a dime to put the tops back on the mountains or take the cadmium out of the water, you're kidding yourself.

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Natural gas will probably kill off coal for domestic electricity production. We'll still need some coal for making steel and such.

But we can still sell megatons of coal every year to China and India and Germany, so they can turn it into electricity.

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John Larkin

BS. You're so full of it your eyes are brown. You have not a clue about WV coal operations. Most of WV coal operations are underground mines. Kentucky, on the other hand is often open pit, as are many western states coal operations.

BS again. Why don't you crawl back into your socialist Massa2shits hole?

Yep. Our ace-in-the-hole to defuse Russia will be selling coal and CNG to Eastern European countries... pretty much stopping the blackmail that Russia holds over them right now. ...Jim Thompson

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| James E.Thompson                                 |    mens     | 
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Or you could enlarge the pipeline network from which John's Audi emerged:

If the pipeline stops for a week, Audi would have to stop making cars until it starts again. And they're not the only client like that.

The only reason both Russia and the USA is interested in Syria is because it occupied territory through which the land pipelines must pass.

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Clifford Heath

That could/should change. The US has _ample_ oil, coal and natural gas reserves. The progressive shit-heads shut it down. Hopefully Trump is going to up-end those bastards. Then we won't need any external energy sources. ...Jim Thompson

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| James E.Thompson                                 |    mens     | 
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The market will surely kill off coal in WV eventually - even if every EPA regulation on the books were disposed of, Wyoming's Powder River Basin has far more coal of higher quality and can mine it faster and cheaper and ship it overseas easier.

Doesn't mean that the firms in WV won't strip the place bare trying to keep up, prior to filing for bankruptcy and ejecting.

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bitrex

Bitrex, Are you really that ignorant? Or is it that you simply parrot the (un)progressive line because you've never had an original thought in your life ?>-}

Sooner or later it's going to be _you_ who finds himself unemployed, replaced by a robot burger-flipper (or robot FPGA programmer) ;-) ...Jim Thompson

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| James E.Thompson                                 |    mens     | 
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It's ample but it just ain't cheap, all the cheap-to-extract stuff other than one coal deposit in Wyoming and natural gas has already been extracted. Unless the Trump administration can think of a way to mandate every business and private consumer buy $5/gallon domestically produced gasoline only it looks like for the near future we'll keep shipping billions of dollars a year to the Kingdom for them to hand over to the Wahhabis building the Caliphate.

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bitrex

The coal mining industry in WV has already got their mountain-stripping robots all set up. The human employment outlook remains bleak, regardless of Trump's promises. Industry will not return to 1930s style mining because they're generous people and want to "share the wealth", for sure.

This isn't soley my personal view but the view of the Brookings Institute as well, not Breitbart but certainly not Mother Jones, either.

An "original thought" isn't de-facto wonderful just because I came up with it if it's a fantasy with no grounding in reality. If Trump cared about the reality of the employment situation in WV he'd be talking about natural gas and hydro, not the perpetual one-step-ahead-of-bankruptcy coal industry, but I'm not convinced he knows what natural gas is or where it comes from.

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bitrex

Iran is sanctioned up the ass and doesn't have a thimbles worth of natural gas to pipe to anyone, even if the Russians could somehow build a pipeline across Iraq (how the hell would they accomplish that?)

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bitrex

It's nothing to do with the USA energy supply. It's to do with the money that comes from supplying energy.

In this century, the unit of wealth is the watt, not the dollar.

Clifford Heath.

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Clifford Heath

New coastal cities, ports and harbours when the Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheets decide to slide off into the sea, but no new energy sources (at least until the reserves get eaten up - they aren't infinite).

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[snip].

Another bird-cage-liner post by Slowman ;-) ...Jim Thompson

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| James E.Thompson                                 |    mens     | 
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Yeah, Trump can turn that around. Global warming, proceeding unabated, willl displace a few hundred million people, who'd all like to be as far from sea level as Huntington. Don't worry, there'll be plenty of long-term natives still there, just look for the 'American English spoken here' signs in the windows...

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whit3rd

Jim's caged birds can read? More than can be said for Jim - he can process written text, but clearly can't absorb anything new or disturbiong.

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Huntington= opioid abuse capital of U.S. "In Huntington, a city in the state's northwest corner portrayed as the epicenter of the nationwide crisis, 28 people overdosed - two fatally - on a single day last August after injecting heroin laced with fentanyl, a dangerous synthetic opioid."

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"_northwest_ corner" ????

Looks like the "dailymail" rag-sheet can't even manage geography ;-)

But it _is_ all about lost hope... no industry, no jobs, nowhere for WV's youth to go but on welfare or escape (as I did 59 years ago... this _isn't_ a new problem... Democrats f*ck over everything they touch). ...Jim Thompson

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| James E.Thompson                                 |    mens     | 
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It is worse: the Daily Wail doesn't care. All the Daily Wail cares about is stories that cause people (classically the "worried well") to buy it.

The Daily Wail is perfectly prepared to wail "why isn't it banned" about a chemical being found in food. Fine, except they carefully omit to mention that the chemical was banned 5 years earlier.

That's knowingly disreputable, and since they do such things repeatedly, the Wail should be ignored.

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