OT Geeks in charge

It's easier to pretend its natural state is perfection and shovel the blame for any non-perfections onto the cartoon-villain/fantasy novel baddies out to "destroy" it. With the Soviet Union gone the right needed new enemies and Islam and the left were the natural fallback hitters up to the plate. It's more personally satisfying too because it means you get to play a warrior engaged in a titanic struggle of good vs. evil rather than just one of 8 billion other people in a confusing, often uncertain, and possibly existentially meaningless universe.

That is to say, without its list of enemies with stock character qualities plucked from old TV shows and Tom Clancy novels the political right wouldn't know what to do with itself.

Hi bitrex, not sure what you are talking about. Did you watch/ read the essay or are you just responding to the title?

I thought the best bit for this group (not at all new) is that middle managers are screwing us. (the technical class.)

GH

Lol, actually watch a political video? This is sci.electronics.design we're talking about! ;-)

I read the synopsis however and I guess I'm going to have to watch the video because I don't know what the synopsis has to do with socialism. I think it's true that the "smarter" more technically-minded men and women have been marginalized out of the middle management compared to 50 years ago and I'd argue in a lot of cases rightfully so; on average the tech guys and girls are great at designing the tech but crappy at dealing with people.

It's way easier to teach the manager who worked his way up via "charm" (is there anything intrinsically wrong with that? this guy just seems kind of pissed that that guy probably got more girls than he did) to have basic competence with tech than it is to teach a turbogeek how to deal with people.

Should the goal really be to out-China China? I dunno if that's a good idea; China is certainly superficially successful when it comes to market economics but is a seriously f***ed-up place in other areas too numerous to count. Over the long haul I think doing whatever the opposite of what they're doing is wouldn't be a bad policy.

PS: The myth of Asian intellectual and academic superiority is pretty much just that, a myth. My GF teaches Chinese exchange students English day in and day out, many of them the kids of wealthy businessmen and party members who can afford to pay for the best money can buy. Yeah, many of them can probably ace a math test but when it comes to real world skills like reading comprehension, writing ability, conversational ability, and just general real-life-operate-in-the-real-world skills good grief so many of them are just about as dumb as they come.

Multiple times a week she has to answer total noob questions that make her say to herself "You are a GRADUATE STUDENT. You supposedly already HAVE A DEGREE. YOU SHOULD KNOW THESE THINGS"

Any text quantity larger than headlines puts a leftist's brain into saturation.

Here I thought you _were_ a middle manager, given your "analysis" of a simple datasheet >:-} ...Jim Thompson

Oh, I thought the editorial was going to actually be about socialism. Turns out it's a mathematician/economist complaining that guys like him aren't "given enough power."

That's easy enough the reason is probably that on average people don't trust him and don't like him. What did he do specifically to prove that he was worthy of having power other than getting a STEM degree? Explanation not on other. Sorry fella, that's not how power works you have to earn it.

What he disparages sort of like it's cheating as "working their way up via charm" is probably more along the lines of what non-geeks would call "doing things that earn people's trust"

Grin, right my pins fell out, diaper slipped and 'stuff' is running down my leg. But that was yesterday. Small company, so I wear many hats, one might be middle manager, when I think about what I'm going to do 'this day' as I'm driving in to work.

I middle manage myself. If only I got paid more for doing it. :^)

George H.

Ahh I think he has plenty of power... from wiki, 'Managing Director of Thiel Capital'.

I just found it interesting. I don't know why you want to make everything political. (Well this is the USA, which side you butter your toast is now political.)

Personally, I find people on all sides of the political spectrum can have good ideas.

George H.

Oh good grief.

You made a post with what seemed to be political content, like what did you expect was gonna happen?

I'm happy to provide management with the responses they'd like but I'd appreciate clearer instructions in future as to what content is and isn't correct.

you mean "doing things that gain people's confidence". Con men.

Sorry, I was doing all this testing today, mostly boring. (The perhaps interesting lockin problem upstream was my operator error..)

I'd heard a lot of those ideas before, but I found he put them together in a way that made sense, at least to me.

'geeks in charge'

HP was a great company when H&P were in charge. Rigol is eating Teks's lunch (and diner?) because it's a 'flat' company. (As the Rigol rep. once said to me.) Engineering is close to production and I also got the feeling that management is not at the top.

George H.