OT: Dumbest Judicial Ruling, EVER...

If a sheriff "outranks" Federal agents, how come Sheriff Joe was arrested?

Asking everyone for ID _IS_ breaking the law.

You sure are a piece-of-work. ...Jim Thompson

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There is no fallacy. You can read the ruling here, the most important parts on pages 12-25. It will be over your head, but you can always try.

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mo%20opinion%20order.pdf This is typical of the mediocre self-styled conservatives of low intelligen ce, which is to take interpretation out of context and completely fail to r ecognize a hierarchy of interpretation to the codified law. They're not foo ling anybody. They know, and we know, they're full of shit, and all they wa nt to do is cause as much trouble as they can get away with. They knew this would never fly.

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We shall see. Leftist court rulings are not surviving too well in the appeals process.

On Saturday next, I'll be attending great-grandson's 2nd birthday party. I'll run this by his grandfather, the judge and see what he says (he's annoyingly impeccable and registered Independent, so his opinion will be precise). I'll report back... maybe I can elicit a written opinion ;-) ...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson

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rts on pages 12-25. It will be over your head, but you can always try.

gence, which is to take interpretation out of context and completely fail t o recognize a hierarchy of interpretation to the codified law. They're not fooling anybody. They know, and we know, they're full of shit, and all they want to do is cause as much trouble as they can get away with. They knew t his would never fly.

He can't give you an opinion without studying that wordy section of the USC . It took the federal judge a week or so to get through it, and he has help from staff.

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rts on pages 12-25. It will be over your head, but you can always try.

gence, which is to take interpretation out of context and completely fail t o recognize a hierarchy of interpretation to the codified law. They're not fooling anybody. They know, and we know, they're full of shit, and all they want to do is cause as much trouble as they can get away with. They knew t his would never fly.

The other thing is this ruling was for a preliminary injunction, it does no t decide the case. The analysis published by the judge was to establish his opinion of the likelihood of the case prevailing in the actual hearing. He has to do that to satisfy the requirements for issuing the injunction. Tha t is all. There is no final decision in this matter.

Interpreting codified law is a specialty, it is complex, a sub-specialty of the legal profession, and is further specialized to specific areas within the law governed by the code.

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My son-in-law has been told by many lawyers and judges that he'd be appointed to the Arizona Supreme Court, if he'd only register as a Republican... he refuses. ...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson

Asking *everyone* for ID is not breaking the law (see: DWI stop). Asking select people probably is.

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DUI roadblocks are a special case. Asking _everyone_ is the classic "show me your papers" unconstitutional "search". ...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson

Actually New York City has sheriffs who enforce the decisions of civil cases. Like if a landlord sues to evict someone, the sheriff comes to drag them out of the apartment. Police are not involved and they don't even come unless it gets violent.

But neither the police nor the sheriff outranks the feds. They can arrest FBI agents if they break local laws, but that's just a matter of juristiction. The FBI can also arrest the police on federal charges, but it's not about rank.

But it is illegal to give sanctuary to fugitives. That also means cities can't protect people who broke federal laws.

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Tom Del Rosso

So you tell me. I've got sound reasons for not taking you seriously either.

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rts on pages 12-25. It will be over your head, but you can always try.

gence, which is to take interpretation out of context and completely fail t o recognize a hierarchy of interpretation to the codified law. They're not fooling anybody. They know, and we know, they're full of shit, and all they want to do is cause as much trouble as they can get away with. They knew t his would never fly.

Jim's definition of "leftist" includes a lot more than more objective (and better-informed) observers would.

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snipped-for-privacy@notreal.com wrote on 9/24/2017 7:42 PM:

A DWI stop is a motor vehicle stop where you must show your license to drive and registration of the vehicle. No one else in the car is required to show ID. In general you are not required to show ID to police. You may be required to identify yourself including name and address, but that is not the same as showing an ID. I believe this was a SCOTUS ruling.

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Jim Thompson wrote on 9/24/2017 6:48 PM:

Maybe it is the same principles that makes him a potential candidate that prevents him from changing his affiliation just to get appointed. I'm just sayin'...

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parts on pages 12-25. It will be over your head, but you can always try.

lligence, which is to take interpretation out of context and completely fai l to recognize a hierarchy of interpretation to the codified law. They're n ot fooling anybody. They know, and we know, they're full of shit, and all t hey want to do is cause as much trouble as they can get away with. They kne w this would never fly.

nd better-informed) observers would.

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The tests weren't designed to handle negative numbers.

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