OT: A possible solution to California's homeless problem?

An activist group is planning a $3 billion city that includes dorm-style accommodations, communal televisions, and underground tunnels to house California's homeless.

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Cursitor Doom
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Absolutely will NOT work. Would guess about half will *refuse* to use it because of the severe restrictions.

Presume the fantasy that ten percent do not use/move in. Then that ten percent would still be homeless, thereby being a "homeless-problem".

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Robert Baer

It sounds like a return of 'The Projects' for low income people in the '

60s. My home town n Ohio spent millions to build apartment buildings. Withi n two years, most were unlivable because the tenants had destroyed them. Th e only one that did OK was a 55+ building for retired people who had owned homes.
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Michael Terrell

You can just build regular efficiency/studio apartments like dorm rooms and cover a portion of the costs for the units for the homeless by renting out some percentage of them to college students and low-income families; housing is so tight and costly in many urban areas that those demographics will gladly sign up to get a nice deal on a studio apartment close to where they work or go to school even if it means living next to the OMG FORMERLY HOMELESS and footing a portion of their bill.

Who the f*ck is "Daune Nason"? Nobody trusts giving large sums of money to activists with big dreams and no track record.

Nobodies with big dreams think up pie-in-the-sky ideas on every topic, social services included, it's amusing watching the likely-almost-homeless-level-income Breitbart commentators freak out like it's actually happening. No, I'm sure there will still be homeless people in CA for quite a while so there's one demographic on Earth they can feel, possibly, legitimately superior to. Though some fraction of homeless work and have jobs I'm unconvinced all Brietbart commentators do.

"Duane Nason is a web developer and entrepreneur." Heh

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bitrex

There should be a requirement to successfully house five homeless on your own dime before anybody asks for money to house five thousand, people want to know if you're serious.

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bitrex

These people are their own worst enemies. By trashing the accommodation, they rendered it unliveable and hence un-rentable. So the interest on the municipal bonds the city issued to pay for the buildings in the first place couldn't be paid from the initial 'investment' and so you get defaults and higher rates on any further paper the city might just be still able to find buyers for in the future. What a bunch of chumps.

Michael - what's your email? I may be able to help you with one of your most disabling medical issues.

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"When constituencies are small their elected representatives must concern themselves with  
the local interests of their constituents. When political representatives are distant and  
faceless, on the other hand, and represent vast numbers of unknown constituents, they  
represent not their constituents, but special interest groups whose lobbyists are numerous  
and ever present. Typically in Europe a technocrat is an ex-politician or a civil servant.  
He is unelected, virtually impossible to dislodge during his term of employment and has  
been granted extensive executive and even legislative power without popular mandate and  
without being directly answerable to the people whose interests he falsely purports to 
represent."                                        

 - Sir James Goldsmith (Member of the European Parliament) 1933 - 1997
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Cursitor Doom

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e '60s. My home town in Ohio spent millions to build apartment buildings. W ithin two years, most were unlivable because the tenants had destroyed them . The only one that did OK was a 55+ building for retired people who had ow ned homes.

The landlords that didn't throw out the destructive tenants have quite a lo t of responsibility.

It takes a while to destroy an apartment, and if you kick out the destructi ve tenants fast and fix the apartments, the remaining tenants get the messa ge.

It does require the landlords to pay attention and react.

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Bill Sloman

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the '60s. My home town in Ohio spent millions to build apartment buildings. Within two years, most were unlivable because the tenants had destroyed th em. The only one that did OK was a 55+ building for retired people who had owned homes.

lot of responsibility.

tive tenants fast and fix the apartments, the remaining tenants get the mes sage.

around here tenants have lots of protection and kicking someone out for anything other than not paying rent is pretty much impossible

and even in places with extensive social safety there are homeless people, often a problem of substance abuse and/or mental illness

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Lasse Langwadt Christensen

NY had the solution to homeless in NY. Give them 1 years free rent in NJ. Travel costs included. OK, it was to anywhere, not just NJ, but many went to NJ. Mikek

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amdx

Did it work? How much did the homeless population go down?

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Winfield Hill

Dang, you beat me to it! Ol' Bill as usual gets it all wrong. Trust him to blame the landlords. Bill, it wasn't the fuggin' landlords that trashed the place!!

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"When constituencies are small their elected representatives must concern themselves with the local interests of their constituents. When political representatives are distant and faceless, on the other hand, and represent vast numbers of unknown constituents, they represent not their constituents, but special interest groups whose lobbyists are numerous and ever present. Typically in Europe a technocrat is an ex-politician or a civil servant. He is unelected, virtually impossible to dislodge during his term of employment and has been granted extensive executive and even legislative power without popular mandate and without being directly answerable to the people whose interests he falsely purports to represent."

- Sir James Goldsmith (Member of the European Parliament) 1933 - 1997

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Cursitor Doom

100% down in NY; 100% up in NJ. ;-)

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"When constituencies are small their elected representatives must concern themselves with the local interests of their constituents. When political representatives are distant and faceless, on the other hand, and represent vast numbers of unknown constituents, they represent not their constituents, but special interest groups whose lobbyists are numerous and ever present. Typically in Europe a technocrat is an ex-politician or a civil servant. He is unelected, virtually impossible to dislodge during his term of employment and has been granted extensive executive and even legislative power without popular mandate and without being directly answerable to the people whose interests he falsely purports to represent."

- Sir James Goldsmith (Member of the European Parliament) 1933 - 1997

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Cursitor Doom

Any such "solution" will attract more homeless than it houses.

Homelessness is a multi-billion-dollar industry here. There are hundreds of "providers" doing very well. The homeless are to the industry what cows are to the cheese business.

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Michael Terrell

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n the '60s. My home town in Ohio spent millions to build apartment building s. Within two years, most were unlivable because the tenants had destroyed them. The only one that did OK was a 55+ building for retired people who ha d owned homes.

a lot of responsibility.

uctive tenants fast and fix the apartments, the remaining tenants get the m essage.

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Indeed. The 'Landlord' was the federal Government who paid for the building s. Local authorities needed a Search Warrant or a Court Order to enter an a partment. Typical of a Liberal wet dream, it collapsed. It was part of 'The Great Society' lie that all they need was a place to live. Then they would stop drinking, selling drugs and killing each other out of gratitude. Tras h is trash. I saw plenty of it doing TV repair while I was still in school. Slowman should have to live in one of these Socialist's Dream Homes!

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Michael Terrell

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A lot of them came to Florida. Many of those were put on a bus back to New York. Others are still living in the Ocala National Forest.

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Michael Terrell

What kind of big-number profits are they turning?

The entire US health insurance industry probably contributes less to GDP than the cheese business. They definitely turn less yearly net than Taco Bell.

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bitrex

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e '60s. My home town n Ohio spent millions to build apartment buildings. Wi thin two years, most were unlivable because the tenants had destroyed them. The only one that did OK was a 55+ building for retired people who had own ed homes.

Can you 'Reply to sender'?

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Michael Terrell

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e '60s. My home town n Ohio spent millions to build apartment buildings. Wi thin two years, most were unlivable because the tenants had destroyed them. The only one that did OK was a 55+ building for retired people who had own ed homes.

One solution is to make the places untrashable. To a fair extent that's doa ble - I looked into how years ago.

NT

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tabbypurr

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the '60s. My home town in Ohio spent millions to build apartment buildings. Within two years, most were unlivable because the tenants had destroyed th em. The only one that did OK was a 55+ building for retired people who had owned homes.

lot of responsibility.

tive tenants fast and fix the apartments, the remaining tenants get the mes sage.

Ie Bill has so little knowledge of the sector that he doesn't know why they weren't booted out immediately.

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tabbypurr

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