Obviously OT: Avoiding Dementia in Aging

Gentlemen,

Recent science holds more than ever that the brain is like a muscle and needs to be exercised regularly and challenged to remain healthy and active. Google 'neuroplasticity' for further info, IYGAS.

Anyway, it seems the worst thing one can do is become a couch potato and just channel-surf daytime TV shows and read celebrity trivia in magazines and newspapers. Does this accord with your real-world experience? Have you personally known people who've developed dementia of some description through letting themselves go and giving up on serious interests? Or is it more to do with losing a sense of purpose?

Your thoughts, please.

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On Sun, 30 Nov 2014 17:15:11 +0000 (UTC), cd Gave us:

Regular life. Opposite of "Don't sweat the small stuff" I think about everything, every second. I think that will help. We'll see. Too late for me either way, but good to become a statistic. Thinking every second, I hope my last words are asking Christ to forgive any of my missteps in life. I thank our creator for my meals. But then hey... I think that Red Skelton is a great teacher and orator and I am the one outside the box these days.

Other exercise? Make sure there is Selenium in your dietary supplement regimen (less E tho), and a hint of Copper on occasion (just wear a bracelet),and an occasional up the mountain day hike with some dLSD-25 and some really good snacks and some really good weed. Moments to remember for life.

Talk about yer neuroplasticity! In TEN Cities! Bwuahahahahaa!

And once you get there, it can be more in tents!

I think we are going to be seeing an in tents ification in our nation.

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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno

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Absolutely. Look around you... all those old folk with spritely minds were mentally active all their lives. ...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson

Your question is vague and avoids making a verifiable hypothesis. The sorts of folks who were "mentally active/agile" tend NOT to be the sorts of folks who want to "veg out" on pablum.

Take a bunch of couch potatoes and (convince them) to engage in mentally stimulating activities (while keeping their BODIES SEDATE). Take a bunch of intellectuals and deprive them of mentally challenging activities but give them routine physical exercise, healthy diet, etc.

Do you expect the former to have better outcomes than the latter?

AFAICT, there has been no conclusive evidence that supports that "use it or lose it" makes a difference in The Population at large. But, it sells lots of books and little games! :>

E.g., a better investment is in *overall* physical fitness to preserve capabilities (mental AND physical) in "declining years". A "healthy heart" probably does more to preserving mental faculties than "daily crosswords".

(Q: How many medications for poor physical health in later years have side-effects that contribute to mental decline in some way or another? Many men follow their spouses to the grave simply because they have no one to remind them to take their meds, eat well, etc.)

"Mental exercise" is yet another of the "simple solutions" posed to make complex problems easier for The Masses to cope. "Just eat nothing but grapefruit and you'll lose weight!"

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Don Y

Is that anything like perusing the posts in s.e.d?

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rickman

You don't need to worry about dementia, the very word implies a loss of intellectual capacity, and you can't lose something you never had.

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Important point. My grandfather on my mother's side was diagnosed with dementia... fortunately a savvy doctor prescribed a pacemaker and he was suddenly no longer demented... stayed sharp all the way to the end... age 88. ...Jim Thompson

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It's called vascular dementia: About 25% of the senile dementia cases are of this type.

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My mother developed some dementia before she died (at 95). She lost a lot o f weight when my father died and never put it back on. By the time she was showing signs of dementia - at age 88 - her BMI was down to 17 and she was also showing signs of cardiac deficiency.

We moved her into care at age 90 - she was less than enthusiastic but the p eople who were keeping her going at home were adamant that she wasn't safe on her own - and her weight went up and the dementia didn't progress.

She read a lot - mainly biographies. I was exchanging an e-mail with her ev ery day from about 1998 - a year after my father died and she'd finally got the hang of the computer we'd forced on her after he'd died (and couldn't object) - to June 2008, when she lost the capacity to get the computer to d o the limited stuff needed to pick up and reply to e-mails.

The statistics suggest that learning and using a second language is a good idea. My wife's mother got dementia earlier, and went down a lot further be fore she died so both my wife and her sister (who did a prophylactic Ph.D. in Social Gerontology after taking early retirement at 55) are full bottles on the subject.

There's a Canadian study that shows that bilinguals - on average - develop Alzheimers four to five years later than mono-linguals. Getting a Ph.D. has a similar - if smaller - protective effect. Writing a book might do it, if it's a thoroughly researched book.

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Bill Sloman

Do you really go for all that guff?

You'd be well advised to lay off the dope and stick to beer. You are living proof of the detrimental effects of cannabis.

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warm'n'flat

On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 08:59:54 +0000, warm'n'flat Gave us:

Guff off.

By whom? You? HA!

My father died from liver failure from only beer, as did my grandfather on my mother's side.

You are living proof that there are holier than thou retards running around acting as if they are special, when they could not be further from grasping the pebble. You can reach, and will, but the opportunity has already passed for you. Flip over... maybe you are on the side that doesn't have both of your eyes on it.

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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno

You need to take a look in the mirror next time you're showering at the local shelter...absolutely horrendous.

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bloggs.fredbloggs.fred

On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 09:20:38 +0000, Pomegranate Bastard Gave us:

Troll the group again?

We do not want any. Fuck off and die, PommyTard.

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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno

Just go away, you're useless.

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bloggs.fredbloggs.fred

Bringing it right back on topic

I forgot to ask Professor Roy Weller this when he gave his local talk (i organise them), transcribed here, halfway down

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He referred to rogue proteins draining out of the brain but with age those microscopic channels become too stiff or something. Would it be possible to have a multi-array of ultrasonic transducers set on a bathcap or something, not particularly high power but somehow sync'd together to cause peristalyic downward waves in those channels to artificially rid the proteins once a year say. The frequency of the transducers having to be a resonant of the natural dimensions of those channels

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N_Cook

Let's hope it's hereditary, eh?

Bloody hell, that was an achievement! I'd have thought it impossible to get hooked on the weak, insipid, over gassed dog piss that is American "beer".

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warm'n'flat

I don't hear much about LSD anymore, is there enough demand for someone to still make it anymore. It's been 40 years, but as you say "Moments to remember for life" Mikek

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amdx

No idea if this is an authoritative source, but this looks to be an answer:

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TL;DR: Harder to get, and a lot of the stuff sold as LSD isn't.

CNN had an show on gringos traveling to Perus to take this:

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Apparently the hallucinogenic properties and the "ceremony" are of assistance in dealing with PTSD for soldiers and similar stuff. I guess the drugs force the people to deal with supressed issues by releasing the internal 'demons'- but the physical effects look to be pretty severe (vomiting, purging etc.) compared to acid, and people have died.

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Spehro Pefhany

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 10:43:30 +0000, warm'n'flat Gave us:

Fuck you, sub-human punk f*ck... eh!

Were I to come find you, ther certainly would be blood before you make your way to hell.

This was Cincinnati, idiot. The beer was 6%, not this Californiacated piss water. But f*ck you, just the same.

Thanks for bolstering the proofs that Einstein was right. Good job there, idiot.

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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 10:43:23 -0500, Spehro Pefhany Gave us:

Folks are sloppy.

The material MUST be very finely fractionated from its brother to get the really electric stuff.

Two products result.

dLSD-25

and lLSD, which is referred to as ALD-52. THAT nasty material is what too much of is left is "modern batches", to the point the idiots these days say things like "Too much strychnine in it..." to which I hastily laugh and say "There is not now, nor has there ever been, ANY strychnine in the making of real LSD. The thing is that the ALD-52 *has* strychnine like side effects and far less hallucinatory effect (if any). makes for no trip and little buzz, and one reason why mushrooms have become so popular in the interim.

So, yeah... the *real* stuff is VERY rare indeed.

Really good fractional distillation and or vacuum evaporation is required in the final processes, and the starting goods should be as pure as can be as well. (the lysergimide).

One would pretty much need a legitimate lab to do it these days. Your wondrous government calls that "a conspiracy to overthrow the government...". At least that is what they were charging folks caught with it back in the seventies.

What a f***ed up, Nazified country this "best there is" piece of shit nation has become.

Quality took a nose dive, and you can go buy Harbor Freight chinese pliers now, for your "grade 8" but they twist off like taffy screws.

Our standard of living went to shit too, and nobody has noticed. No wonder the banks screwed so many people on home mortgages.

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