... with Russian help and I'll bet under-the-counter deals.
He is paying that back/forward by saying he's going to withdraw from Syria. That allows Moscow to have very significant influence in the middle east, including military bases.
He did have help, and there's no need to imagine that he asked for it. It's sufficient to imagine that the Russians backed the candidate who they figured was least likely to give them a hard time if he or she got elected.
But he got very little more help than he actually needed. His winning margin seems to have been about 77,000 votes in the three small states that got him his electoral college majority.
The Russian intervention could - in theory - have been brilliantly calculated to have been just enough to do the job, but it's more likely they were trying to find out how much they could get away with and how much effect they could have.
Getting the creep elected was an incidental bonus.
-- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Actually, the winning margin was negative, counting voters.
But the creep works as intended.
Russian ice-free harbors on the Krim and in Syria. It took so long. It was already a wet dream of the Tzars.
Deserted his Kurdic allies, so Putin and his Erdogan buddy have free hands now.
The IS is still alive and kicking. They have concentrated on their core business, killing grandmas and children all over the world.
Oh yes, their all mighty Allah needs their broad shoulders to hide behind. They are only doing what He would do without any doubt if He knew all the facts.
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argin seems to have been about 77,000 votes in the three small states that got him his electoral college majority.
He lost the popular vote by three million votes, but his electoral college win was based on getting 77,000 more votes than Clinton in the three sates that turned out to be crucial for the electoral college.
culated to have been just enough to do the job, but it's more likely they w ere trying to find out how much they could get away with and how much effec t they could have.
Trump's enthusiasm for a trade war with China is also screwing up the world economy to a limited extent, and incidentally impoverishing the people who were silly enough to vote for him, though not by much. The creep does the wrong things, but not all that effectively.
-- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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It does not allow Russia significant influence in the Middle East. And Russ ia already had a HUGE presence in Syria. They've only had this naval base t here for nearly 50 years!
You lefties really are _nuts_. You even believe your own bullshit.
Ditto.
Maybe get them to build some roads and unfiltered coal power plants for you. They are such nice guys.
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc lunatic fringe electronics
It is indeed a great shame to see the world's opinion of the US sinking towards that of China. Not good.
He's doing OK.
He was obviously right about Kavanaugh and right about Korea and right about business taxes and immigration and a few other things. I think his black and hispanic support will be up in the next presidential election. He's a lout with good instincts.
The #1 skill of any politicial is getting elected.
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc lunatic fringe electronics
Do we want an endless war in Syria? US troope there forever? Another Cold War, but with guns?
If Assad and the russians can kill off ISIL, that sounds good to me.
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc lunatic fringe electronics
Chinese saying: "If you save someone's life, they will hate you forever."
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
I saw one report that some russians spent $4700 to promote Trump on Facebook. The Clinton machine wasted over a billion dollars on losing.
$4700. That's serious efficiency.
Let's keep that Cold War going!
-- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
You needn't be such a cynic; there's probably some skills available other than that (but you'll have to look for them).
The #1 skill of an informed voter is finding skills OTHER than the ones that evaporate after the campaign.
Nonsense, of course; that's the ad-placement cost, not the back end crafting of message and imagery... there's a whole mess of folk in the backroom behind that campaign, and we won't have any 'efficiency' calculation without their salaries and overhead.
Krw doesn't recognise right-wing bullshit as bullshit - it's what he believes so it the touchstone against which everything else is tested, by krw.
Krw can't find of way of explaining how this observation might be incorrect, so he repeats his usual mantra. It does take much less effort.
-- Bill Sloman, Sydney
Why would China bother building "unfiltered" coal plants?
They built a lot of inefficient polluting coal plants in China some time ago, but they've played catch-up there too.
-- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Assad runs a thoroughly unsatisfactory regime, and dumps poison gas on citi zens who have the temerity to point out that he could do better.
The US hasn't demonstrated the capacity to install regimes that perform muc h better than corrupt dictatorship - Irak was supposed to show-case those s kills, but the skill exhibited there wasn't impressive.
It could sub-contract the job to people who have done better, if it didn't have the same kind of inflated ideas about it's own competence that John La rkin show-cases here.
It would. Sadly, Assad and the Russians have a long history of creating dis satisfied electorates - as the US did with their support for the Shah in Ir an - and dissatisfied electorates have a tendency to go for any alternative that looks even slightly better.
What somebody with any grasp of reality would be looking for is an alternat ive regime with some prospect of offering more or less fair and competent g overnment.
Neither Russia nor Assad offers that, or anything that's enough better than ISIL to have much prospect of squeezing even them out.
-- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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John Larkin has this bizarre delusion that the US has "saved the world", no t just once (by winning WW2 - though the Russians actually did most of work involved in that) but again, by stopping the Russians from taking over Eur ope after WW2 (which didn't take much effort at all, and made them a lot of money).
-- Bill Sloman, Sydney
I didn't know you were a Trumpist! That's great news!
I wonder why krw thinks that whit3rd is a Trumpist?
Maybe krw thinks that Trump's skills as a tweeter would have been a reason to elect him. More realistic opinions don't value them highly.
Since Trump hasn't exhibited any other new skill since he got elected - his skills as a liar and a cheat were already well known long before he got el ected - it's difficult to see what krw might have had in mind (if you can c lass krw's cognitive apparatus as a mind).
-- Bill Sloman, Sydney
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