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Re: More Dimwit Dimocrat BS...
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 09:09:59 -0700, Jim Thompson

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Are they such cry babies or is it my imagination?

Cheers

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On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 12:44:17 PM UTC-4, Martin Riddle wrote:
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It's getting to be a real toss up for me, as to which party
disgusts me more.  (I've been meaning to change my party affiliation
to independent... I don't get to vote in primaries, but.)

George H.  

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On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 09:09:59 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

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The sooner the American people wake up to the fact
that BOTH partys are completely corrupt the sooner we can
achive a representative democracy.


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amen


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Did you miss the word "representative" in there?
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"Representative republic" is redundant.

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On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 1:50:51 PM UTC+11, snipped-for-privacy@notreal.com wrote:
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The argument is about who gets represented, and how effectively. Money talk
s in the US, as it does everywhere, but money gets a lot more attention in  
the US than it does in places with less primitive political systems.

Neon John was complaining that men of substance aren't now as over-represen
ted as they were when the US constitution was first put into practice, but  
they are still over-represented to an extent that allows them to skew the r
unning of the country in favour of their short term advantage, to the long  
term disadvantage of the country as a whole (them included, though they see
m to be too dumb to have noticed that).

--  
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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Wayne Chirnside wrote:
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The eternal cry of people who don't want to bother learning who is  
corrupt and who isn't.




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On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 11:43:57 AM UTC-7, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
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  HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  No, wait- you actually believe the Democratic party isn't corrupt?


  Mark L. Fergerson

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snipped-for-privacy@bid.nes wrote:
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Taken in the context of the OP my post could be interpreted to imply the  
opposite, but actually didn't imply any correlation to party at all, and  
certainly not that.  You're just imagining things.




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On Monday, 30 October 2017 10:59:46 UTC+11, Joseph Gwinn  wrote:
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 are > > > > > > > plenty of female mathematicians.
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The "left" doesn't want to be believe that, because it knows that it isn't  
true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blank_Slate
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At the tails of the distribution, you get no questions right, or all the qu
estions right, so the test tells you nothing about those individuals (beyon
d the binary fact that they are very dumb or very bright). Pushing millions
 of people through the test makes it very likely that the test has been app
lied to the tails of the distribution, but doesn't extract any more informa
tion.
  
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One always expects a Guassian distribution. Measuring what's actually going
 on is the interesting thing to do, and a single plain vanilla IQ test appl
ied to the whole range of abilities doesn't tell you much about the extreme
s.

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At least one of them showed up at Cambridge Instruments when I was there, a
nd while the comapy didn't hang onto him for long, he did revolutionise the
 way it it together the electron microscope column. Before he arrived, each
 of the three pole pieces in the column had to be aligned by twiddling thre
e grub screws per pole piece, and the column was easy to knock out of align
ment.

His innovation was to have the pole pieces and the housing machined to unpr
ecedented accuracy (which had only recently become commercially feasible),  
and accurately enough that you had to heat the housing and cool the pole pi
eces (with liquid nitrogen) before you could slide the pole pieces into pla
ce. Once they had been shrink-fitted together they stayed aligned.

The existence of smart Chinese doesn't guarantee that their society is all  
that wonderful at finding these people, and sending them off to get educed.
 Our guy had been such a brilliant machinist that his Chinese bosses had se
nt him off to a Chinese university, and his Chinese University had been so  
impressed with him that they'd sent him off to Cambridge UK to do a Ph.D. o
n electron microscopes. He didn't think much f the system that had picked h
im out, and got head-hunted from us by an American firm that could offer hi
m - and his wife and kids - instant American citizenship. He'd been in the  
UK long enough to be entitled to apply for UK citizenship by then, and he w
ould have got it - eventually - but the American offer guaranteed US citize
nship, back before Dubbya and Trump had devalued it.
  
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It's not the single most useful measure. Universities still use examination
s to do much the same job, and get graduate students to write theses which  
are examined by panels of experts, and the results of these tedious and exp
ensive procedures are taken a lot more seriously than IQ test results, whic
h have the overwhelming advantage of being quick and cheap, and the equally
 overwhelming disadvantage of not correlating strongly with anything we nee
d to know.

University entrance in Australia isn't based on IQ tests, but on the result
s of written examinations.

Some 60% of the entrants to Australian Universities emerge with a degree, a
nd your changes of emerging with a degree correlate relatively weakly with  
your exam results (once you get below the top 10% who have a 95% change of  
emerging with a degree). The universities are aware of this, and use other  
information to bias their choices towards the students with lower exam resu
lts who happen to be more likely to stay the distance.  

IQ tests are popular with academics who specialise on IQ tests. It's a more
 useful interest than working out how many angels can dance on the head of  
pin, but not all that much more useful.

--  
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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On Sunday, October 29, 2017 at 9:36:36 PM UTC-4, snipped-for-privacy@ieee.org wrote:
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questions right, so the test tells you nothing about those individuals (bey
ond the binary fact that they are very dumb or very bright). Pushing millio
ns of people through the test makes it very likely that the test has been a
pplied to the tails of the distribution, but doesn't extract any more infor
mation.
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ng on is the interesting thing to do, and a single plain vanilla IQ test ap
plied to the whole range of abilities doesn't tell you much about the extre
mes.

I'm not seeing anything relating the law of large numbers to the Gaussian.
  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_large_numbers

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precedented accuracy (which had only recently become commercially feasible)
, and accurately enough that you had to heat the housing and cool the pole  
pieces (with liquid nitrogen) before you could slide the pole pieces into p
lace. Once they had been shrink-fitted together they stayed aligned.
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l that wonderful at finding these people, and sending them off to get educe
d. Our guy had been such a brilliant machinist that his Chinese bosses had  
sent him off to a Chinese university, and his Chinese University had been s
o impressed with him that they'd sent him off to Cambridge UK to do a Ph.D.
 on electron microscopes. He didn't think much f the system that had picked
 him out, and got head-hunted from us by an American firm that could offer  
him - and his wife and kids - instant American citizenship. He'd been in th
e UK long enough to be entitled to apply for UK citizenship by then, and he
 would have got it - eventually - but the American offer guaranteed US citi
zenship, back before Dubbya and Trump had devalued it.
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h are examined by panels of experts, and the results of these tedious and e
xpensive procedures are taken a lot more seriously than IQ test results, wh
ich have the overwhelming advantage of being quick and cheap, and the equal
ly overwhelming disadvantage of not correlating strongly with anything we n
eed to know.
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lts of written examinations.
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 and your changes of emerging with a degree correlate relatively weakly wit
h your exam results (once you get below the top 10% who have a 95% change o
f emerging with a degree). The universities are aware of this, and use othe
r information to bias their choices towards the students with lower exam re
sults who happen to be more likely to stay the distance.  
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f pin, but not all that much more useful.
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On Sunday, 29 October 2017 18:00:52 UTC+11, snipped-for-privacy@bid.nes  wrote:
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Politics is the art of the possible, and it's all about negotiating comprom
ises that don't upset anybody too much. Granting that rich people have many
 more ways of expressing their dissatisfaction with a compromise they don't
 like, corruption is an inevitable part of political life. Granting the the
 US Supreme Court doesn't see anything wrong in rich people spending money  
to influence politicians, US politics is more corrupt than politics in othe
r advanced industrial countries.

Granting the Tea Party Faction is a creation of the very well-off Koch brot
hers, the US Republican party has to be seen as more corrupt that the US De
mocratic party, and the fact that Trump is now the US president as a nomina
l Republican is clear evidence that the Republican Party is now sea-green i
ncorruptible, having been corrupted into a state that's essentially moribun
d.

--  
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:
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The guy who owns a laundromat and the guy who owns a deli don't go to a  
Tea Party meeting because Koch told them to.  It's grass roots.  OWS was  
created afterwards by Soros and others.




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Tom Del Rosso wrote:
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 From P.J. O'Rourke comes the observation that the Republican party is  
run by the County Chairmen, who are largely "guys who used to own a KFC  
franchise."

--  
Les Cargill

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On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 9:35:44 PM UTC+11, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
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But Koch money makes sure that they know about the Tea Party meetings.

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Astroturf.


Occupy Wall Street grew out of a heap of economic data originally collected by  Thomas Piketty, long before he wrote

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_in_the_Twenty-First_Century

His data seems to have moved the people who collected their own socio-economic data and published it rather earlier

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spirit_Level:_Why_More_Equal_Societies_Almost_Always_Do_Better

George Soros is interested in and sympathetic to that kind of work, though the stuff he has published isn't nearly as interesting.

As conspiracy theories go, blaming George Soros for the Occupy Wall Street moveent is remarkably silly, even for somebody as dim-witted as you.

Occupy Wall Street was a reaction to a trend that got under way when Reagan was in power, and imagining that a little left-wing money was a significant contribution to its popularity is rather silly.

--  
Bill Sloman, Sydney


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On Sunday, 29 October 2017 18:00:52 UTC+11, snipped-for-privacy@bid.nes  wrote:
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Politics is the art of the possible, and it's all about negotiating comprom
ises that don't upset anybody too much. Granting that rich people have many
 more ways of expressing their dissatisfaction with a compromise they don't
 like, corruption is an inevitable part of political life. Granting the the
 US Supreme Court doesn't see anything wrong in rich people spending money  
to influence politicians, US politics is more corrupt than politics in othe
r advanced industrial countries.

Granting the Tea Party Faction is a creation of the very well-off Koch brot
hers, the US Republican party has to be seen as more corrupt that the US De
mocratic party, and the fact that Trump is now the US president as a nomina
l Republican is clear evidence that the Republican Party is now sea-green i
ncorruptible, having been corrupted into a state that's essentially moribun
d.

--  
Bill Sloman, Sydney  


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On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 12:10:11 PM UTC-4, Jim Thompson wrote:
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The mongoloid was giving a talk at Indiana University law school. That's th
e alma mater of the piece of shit Pence, and he barely got through. Then th
e less than mediocre of piece garbage couldn't find employment anywhere exc
ept with a collection agency. His job was carrying forms required by the co
urt and filled out by the secretary to the court building. Needless to say,
 he wasn't paid a whole lot, so the useless parasite moved into small time  
talk radio where he discovered an audience of fundamentalist christian tras
h and tea party type riffraff.

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On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 1:28:00 AM UTC+11, snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com
 wrote:
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the alma mater of the piece of shit Pence, and he barely got through. Then  
the less than mediocre of piece garbage couldn't find employment anywhere e
xcept with a collection agency. His job was carrying forms required by the  
court and filled out by the secretary to the court building. Needless to sa
y, he wasn't paid a whole lot, so the useless parasite moved into small tim
e talk radio where he discovered an audience of fundamentalist christian tr
ash and tea party type riffraff.

The New Yorker doesn't like Pence much

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/23/the-danger-of-president-pence

He can look more statesman-like than Trump, but that's because he's program
med to conform to more tightly defined role, and the people who defined tha
t role are not exactly attractive.

--  
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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