More Dimwit Dimocrat BS...

More Dimwit Dimocrat BS...

...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson
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Are they such cry babies or is it my imagination?

Cheers

Reply to
Martin Riddle

It's getting to be a real toss up for me, as to which party disgusts me more. (I've been meaning to change my party affiliation to independent... I don't get to vote in primaries, but.)

George H.

Reply to
George Herold

The sooner the American people wake up to the fact that BOTH partys are completely corrupt the sooner we can achive a representative democracy.

Reply to
Wayne Chirnside

amen

Reply to
M Philbrook

Did you miss the word "representative" in there?

"Representative republic" is redundant.

Reply to
krw

The argument is about who gets represented, and how effectively. Money talk s in the US, as it does everywhere, but money gets a lot more attention in the US than it does in places with less primitive political systems.

Neon John was complaining that men of substance aren't now as over-represen ted as they were when the US constitution was first put into practice, but they are still over-represented to an extent that allows them to skew the r unning of the country in favour of their short term advantage, to the long term disadvantage of the country as a whole (them included, though they see m to be too dumb to have noticed that).

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
Reply to
bill.sloman

The eternal cry of people who don't want to bother learning who is corrupt and who isn't.

Reply to
Tom Del Rosso

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

No, wait- you actually believe the Democratic party isn't corrupt?

Mark L. Fergerson

Reply to
alien8752

Taken in the context of the OP my post could be interpreted to imply the opposite, but actually didn't imply any correlation to party at all, and certainly not that. You're just imagining things.

Reply to
Tom Del Rosso

Politics is the art of the possible, and it's all about negotiating comprom ises that don't upset anybody too much. Granting that rich people have many more ways of expressing their dissatisfaction with a compromise they don't like, corruption is an inevitable part of political life. Granting the the US Supreme Court doesn't see anything wrong in rich people spending money to influence politicians, US politics is more corrupt than politics in othe r advanced industrial countries.

Granting the Tea Party Faction is a creation of the very well-off Koch brot hers, the US Republican party has to be seen as more corrupt that the US De mocratic party, and the fact that Trump is now the US president as a nomina l Republican is clear evidence that the Republican Party is now sea-green i ncorruptible, having been corrupted into a state that's essentially moribun d.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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The "left" doesn't want to be believe that, because it knows that it isn't true.

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One always expects a Guassian distribution. Measuring what's actually going on is the interesting thing to do, and a single plain vanilla IQ test appl ied to the whole range of abilities doesn't tell you much about the extreme s.

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His innovation was to have the pole pieces and the housing machined to unpr ecedented accuracy (which had only recently become commercially feasible), and accurately enough that you had to heat the housing and cool the pole pi eces (with liquid nitrogen) before you could slide the pole pieces into pla ce. Once they had been shrink-fitted together they stayed aligned.

The existence of smart Chinese doesn't guarantee that their society is all that wonderful at finding these people, and sending them off to get educed. Our guy had been such a brilliant machinist that his Chinese bosses had se nt him off to a Chinese university, and his Chinese University had been so impressed with him that they'd sent him off to Cambridge UK to do a Ph.D. o n electron microscopes. He didn't think much f the system that had picked h im out, and got head-hunted from us by an American firm that could offer hi m - and his wife and kids - instant American citizenship. He'd been in the UK long enough to be entitled to apply for UK citizenship by then, and he w ould have got it - eventually - but the American offer guaranteed US citize nship, back before Dubbya and Trump had devalued it.

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It's not the single most useful measure. Universities still use examination s to do much the same job, and get graduate students to write theses which are examined by panels of experts, and the results of these tedious and exp ensive procedures are taken a lot more seriously than IQ test results, whic h have the overwhelming advantage of being quick and cheap, and the equally overwhelming disadvantage of not correlating strongly with anything we nee d to know.

University entrance in Australia isn't based on IQ tests, but on the result s of written examinations.

Some 60% of the entrants to Australian Universities emerge with a degree, a nd your changes of emerging with a degree correlate relatively weakly with your exam results (once you get below the top 10% who have a 95% change of emerging with a degree). The universities are aware of this, and use other information to bias their choices towards the students with lower exam resu lts who happen to be more likely to stay the distance.

IQ tests are popular with academics who specialise on IQ tests. It's a more useful interest than working out how many angels can dance on the head of pin, but not all that much more useful.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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bill.sloman

Politics is the art of the possible, and it's all about negotiating comprom ises that don't upset anybody too much. Granting that rich people have many more ways of expressing their dissatisfaction with a compromise they don't like, corruption is an inevitable part of political life. Granting the the US Supreme Court doesn't see anything wrong in rich people spending money to influence politicians, US politics is more corrupt than politics in othe r advanced industrial countries.

Granting the Tea Party Faction is a creation of the very well-off Koch brot hers, the US Republican party has to be seen as more corrupt that the US De mocratic party, and the fact that Trump is now the US president as a nomina l Republican is clear evidence that the Republican Party is now sea-green i ncorruptible, having been corrupted into a state that's essentially moribun d.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
Reply to
bill.sloman

The guy who owns a laundromat and the guy who owns a deli don't go to a Tea Party meeting because Koch told them to. It's grass roots. OWS was created afterwards by Soros and others.

Reply to
Tom Del Rosso

From P.J. O'Rourke comes the observation that the Republican party is run by the County Chairmen, who are largely "guys who used to own a KFC franchise."

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Les Cargill
Reply to
Les Cargill

But Koch money makes sure that they know about the Tea Party meetings.

Astroturf.

Occupy Wall Street grew out of a heap of economic data originally collected by Thomas Piketty, long before he wrote

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His data seems to have moved the people who collected their own socio-economic data and published it rather earlier

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George Soros is interested in and sympathetic to that kind of work, though the stuff he has published isn't nearly as interesting.

As conspiracy theories go, blaming George Soros for the Occupy Wall Street moveent is remarkably silly, even for somebody as dim-witted as you.

Occupy Wall Street was a reaction to a trend that got under way when Reagan was in power, and imagining that a little left-wing money was a significant contribution to its popularity is rather silly.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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bill.sloman

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l that wonderful at finding these people, and sending them off to get educe d. Our guy had been such a brilliant machinist that his Chinese bosses had sent him off to a Chinese university, and his Chinese University had been s o impressed with him that they'd sent him off to Cambridge UK to do a Ph.D. on electron microscopes. He didn't think much f the system that had picked him out, and got head-hunted from us by an American firm that could offer him - and his wife and kids - instant American citizenship. He'd been in th e UK long enough to be entitled to apply for UK citizenship by then, and he would have got it - eventually - but the American offer guaranteed US citi zenship, back before Dubbya and Trump had devalued it.

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ons to do much the same job, and get graduate students to write theses whic h are examined by panels of experts, and the results of these tedious and e xpensive procedures are taken a lot more seriously than IQ test results, wh ich have the overwhelming advantage of being quick and cheap, and the equal ly overwhelming disadvantage of not correlating strongly with anything we n eed to know.

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and your changes of emerging with a degree correlate relatively weakly wit h your exam results (once you get below the top 10% who have a 95% change o f emerging with a degree). The universities are aware of this, and use othe r information to bias their choices towards the students with lower exam re sults who happen to be more likely to stay the distance.

re useful interest than working out how many angels can dance on the head o f pin, but not all that much more useful.

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bloggs.fredbloggs.fred

The mongoloid was giving a talk at Indiana University law school. That's th e alma mater of the piece of shit Pence, and he barely got through. Then th e less than mediocre of piece garbage couldn't find employment anywhere exc ept with a collection agency. His job was carrying forms required by the co urt and filled out by the secretary to the court building. Needless to say, he wasn't paid a whole lot, so the useless parasite moved into small time talk radio where he discovered an audience of fundamentalist christian tras h and tea party type riffraff.

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bloggs.fredbloggs.fred

the alma mater of the piece of shit Pence, and he barely got through. Then the less than mediocre of piece garbage couldn't find employment anywhere e xcept with a collection agency. His job was carrying forms required by the court and filled out by the secretary to the court building. Needless to sa y, he wasn't paid a whole lot, so the useless parasite moved into small tim e talk radio where he discovered an audience of fundamentalist christian tr ash and tea party type riffraff.

The New Yorker doesn't like Pence much

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He can look more statesman-like than Trump, but that's because he's program med to conform to more tightly defined role, and the people who defined tha t role are not exactly attractive.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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bill.sloman

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