It'll make your blood boil, unless your a lefty

OK, I'll play. Even if God is unchanging, that doesn't mean that people's interpretation of him isn't. It's rather obvious that it has.

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Not evidence. If you had you would clearly have been eliminated.

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Unless they are theologians. Mathematicians know about

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One of John Larkin's old ideas is that he should only use transformers that he can buy off the shelf.

He doesn't seem to realise that this puts him at the woefully under-capitalised end of a pecking order that extends up well past people who can afford to get Jim Thompson to design them an application specific integrated circuit.

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James Arthur can't even tell the difference between Communism and socialism - the rest of his beliefs are equally ill-founded.

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Matthew 10:14 has him saying that he wasn't bringing peace, but a sword. Sw ords may not imply rape or enslavement, but they do imply killing.

That was the picture that the gospel-writers wanted to spread. The specific quotes that leak through the public relations gloss are rather more violen t.

There's nothing about Christianity that makes the world more scientific. Ce rtain protestant apologists do couple prosperity and the rise of protestant beliefs, but their arguments aren't all that persuasive.

Christianity - by and large - has preferred doctrinal opinion to scientific fact from way back - Europe got access to classical science through Muslim scholars. Christian scholars scraped Greek science off scrolls and recycle d the parchment to document theological controversies.

Galileo got told what he ought to believe about planetary motion under thre at of torture, and Bishop Samuel Wilberforce wanted to know if Huxley was d escended from apes on his mother's side or his father's side (laying himsel f open to a particularly humiliating response).

John Larkin is too young to remember the Scopes Monkey trial, and too ill-i nformed ever to have heard about it.

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Why not take the time to do one of them right?

Not relevant. I haven't spent most of my time telling other people how wonderful my design skills are, so fewer of them ask me to design things.

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No, my point is simply what I said. If I have told someone that, as in my example, that sitting at my dinner table and making comments that make me uncomfortable or that I find personally distasteful is something I don't want to happen, and they persist in doing it anyway, then _I_ am not the one who is being or intolerant or abusive - it's them, and I am

100% justified in telling them to f*ck off at that point.

That's not called being a "hater", that's called having "good personal boundaries."

It's really simple and (maybe?) surprising that many people don't seem to get these very basic facts.

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Christianity didn't have much to do with any of them, and it's never been e nthusiastic about freedom or creativity.

John Larkin likes books that flatter his vanity. He's of Irish descent, so anything that says nice things about the Irish is going to appeal to him.

Australia is about 35% Irish (and 35% Catholic). My ancestors aren't, and I got a fair bit of anti-Irish propaganda when I was growing up. It didn't t ake - my wife is descended from a fairly prominent Irish immigrant (of the sort that wouldn't have worried my family at all) but I can remember what t hey were worried about.

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The Trump base was calling for her to be imprisoned, what should she have referred to them as? Really cool people? "Oh I could certainly see why you would think that, but before you do it let's just talk it over..."

Talk about a codependent mindset. I'm definitely not so desperate for friends that I'm going to go out and kiss people's ass who say I'm shit behind my back in the hope that they'll like me.

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I'm of Irish descent, too! My great-great-great grandfather was named James Stewart - classic Irish name.

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Somehow western culture created modern science and technology, and other cultures lagged. The Christian prespective, and resultig law and culture, was a part of the dynamic that got us where we are today. Even atheist kids went to public schools and public libraries and stuff.

Sure, but we grow up in a culture. Electronics happened in ours.

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If providers had to publish their prices, the published prices would come down and roughly equalize.

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That's very closed-minded thinking, and not very logical. The United States does an excellent job of containing communicable disease. It is easily handled with a little bit of national coordination, no national socialist medicine required.

Contradicting your premise, countries with universal healthcare are the

*source* of most of the epidemic diseases introduced into the United States, particularly (but not limited to) tuberculosis, which is wide-spread in countries with 'universal' national socialist medicine (e.g., off the top of my head, Mexico and India).

"In 2014, 66% of [U.S.] TB cases occurred in foreign born people. The top five countries of origin of foreign born persons with TB were Mexico, the Philippines, India, Vietnam and China."

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As another example, South Africa has universal health care. Their HIV prevalence was officially one third of the population when I was there, but the locals said it was actually half.

That's another strawman--if it's cheaper and easier to fix at an early stage, the PERSON about to suffer has an even greater incentive to handle the problem early, also, to avoid the illness, not to mention the expense. No socialism required.

Cheers, James Arthur

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But reciprocity between states is not at all the same as one centrally- controlled one-size-fits-all European system, the equivalent of which is what's being continually pushed by some here for the United States.

Rather than Washington D.C. (as suggested for us), I suggest all Swedish healthcare policy should be decided exclusively in Rome. For efficiency, the same Italian agency could also handle all of Sweden's treatment standards, payments, and claims, too.

See what I mean?

Or would you prefer that your healthcare be voted on and directed by the United States' Congress? I thought not.

See above.

U.S. healthcare is expensive because our government has made it so, completely unnecessarily. Just look at Obamacare. Passed allegedly to control cost, the "Affordable" Care Act has doubled the cost for people who buy their own insurance in three short years.

Nice work, government!

Cheers, James Arthur

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My experience is that doctors charge about half for payment in full when services are rendered.

That's about all they get from the insurance company anyhow, and it removes both their considerable overhead interacting with the insurance people, plus the doctor's risk of not getting paid.

That's really a tiresome excuse that somehow refuses to die--emergency care comprises a TINY percentage of overall medical spending.

Cheers, James Arthur

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That's a great way to save cost for *everyone.* If even a few of us press providers on price, it benefits everyone.

And it puts a bundle of money back in your pocket too--ten years of that is over $50,000 in your savings account. Imagine how much that could help a family save for emergencies, college, or retirement.

Cheers, James Arthur

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I live as a poor person. I live on about 50% of my income.

That's my advice.

Put most of your savings in a Total Stock Market Index Fund.

Start thinking about reallocating 5 to 7 years before you retire.

Learn the principles of saving here; >

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HERE"S THE GURU"S STORY MrMoneyMustache

Ahh, I see that sissy the ?Realist? has been posting on my blog. I hope that doesn?t happen too often. Sukka?s too soft. You?ll never get anywhere with piddly numbers like $5/month or $5/day.

And I had to laugh at that example.. would anyone really start buying lunch at a restaurant when they were already so tight on cash that they were saving NOTHING? And would they continue buying it once they saw that their credit card balance was starting to grow? What kind of idiot would do that? Why does this guy call himself the ?Realist? with such an unrealistically stupid example?

What I want you to do is start thinking of REAL savings. Not putting away $5 or $150 per month, but more like FIVE THOUSAND per month. Not everyone can do that. But a middle-class American family with two teachers making $60k each per year, who are currently saving zero and struggling to get by? THEY SHOULD BE SOCKING AWAY $5000 PER MONTH. Word.

Here?s my story, so you can see how it?s done.

As a boy, I learned frugality by growing up in a family where my parents didn?t buy much stuff. Instead of having stuff given to me, I had to get a paper route, trudging 6 days every week in the bleak Ontario, Canada weather for thirty bucks. After this experience, earning $4.15/hour in a gas station with a partially heated booth was incredibly cushy and generous. Imagine then, how amazing it was the next year to earn $6.50/hour to work in a convenience store with not only windows and doors to protect you from the weather, but heat and air conditioning that allowed you to wear indoor clothing year-round? I was making $650/month, going to high school, and by the end of a year, I had $5,000 in the bank.

My point is that in the United States and other rich countries, you?ve got it good. Even if you work in Wal-Mart, you make more money than I did, you get to walk around in a huge fancy store, and you can save almost everything you earn if you don?t get ridiculous and waste it all. When I made $6.50 an hour, I knew it wasn?t enough to afford a car or my own apartment at age 16. Well, it was enough, but only if I wanted to spend everything I earned. So I stayed at my parents? house. When I started making more, I was ready to up the lifestyle a bit.. but not a huge amount.

From here the MMM story goes on. I went to university, but picked the local one so I could live rent-free with family. I worked in the summers and found affordable ways to party so I graduated with no debt. A decent professional job awaited at graduation, so I upped the ante to include my first used car and a house shared with many roommates (rent: $270/month). After a few raises and new jobs, I moved to the USA, doubled the salary, but kept the used car and the living-with-roommates situation. Finally, a 20% downpayment had been saved for a house, so I made the jump to buy my first fixer-upper, sharing it and working on it with my future wife.

At this point, we had it made ? double incomes, low mortgage. We let the good times roll a little bit, enjoying the same luxuries as our peers, doing plenty of international travel. But the difference was, we were spending only about 25% of disposable income, while they were spending

90%, because of additional expenses like auto loans, higher mortgages, and hidden stuff like clothes and restaurants. This meant saving a good $4,000/month, which rapidly compounds and results in a net savings of $7,000/month after a few years. Pretty soon we were on a treadmill that was pushing us forwards instead of fighting one that pulled us back.

At this point, we could have bought a huge house or a small fleet of nice cars. But instead, we spent the money on the ultimate luxury ? quitting our jobs. For other people, a sailboat or a starting a local charitable trust might be the luxury of choice. You get to choose your own reward. But it?s all about not getting stupid when you can?t yet afford it.

For example, when you?re making $30,000/year, you can?t be out buying $7 martinis on the weekends and financing a $20,000 new car. At this level, you are still in the cooking-at-home and riding your bike club. Maybe a $3,000 used car if you can buy it in cash and if it?s really necessary to get to work.

When can you truly afford a fancy car like a BMW? Well, once you have the cash for it in the bank, your house and all other debts are fully paid off, and you are either retired or very comfortable with delaying your eventual retirement for a year or more to pay for this depreciating piece of luxury property, THEN you can roll into the dealership.

The funny part is, if you follow the ways of the Money Mustache, you?ll hit these levels sooner than you think. So you can borrow to buy the BMW today, and pay for it forever. Or you can pick it up with the spare change in your wallet in the surprisingly-near future, and be a happier person for the wait.

Mikek

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I went into consulting between 2005 and 2007 and so obtained insurance privately - it went up by a factor of ~5 in those two years. When it reached ~$10,000/year I decided to go back to full-time employment to obtain insurance at a reasonable price.

This was many years before Obamacare.

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I'll add, when I upped the deductible, it made me eligible for an HSA. Contributing the max into the HSA saves me $975 off my taxes, for some it could be double that. Mikek

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