interesting thing about engineering education

My drug of choice is chocolate.

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That's just some insane crap conceived by parasites trying to get out of doing real work because they can't perform. It's not worthy of discussion.

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My drug of choice is Metoprolol but I don't make it myself.

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krw

Not the kind of chemistry that is taught in high school. My organic chemist ry courses didn't have much on the kinds of organic compounds that have psy chological effects until third year - ethanol and nitrous oxide are the obv ious exceptions, but they don't seem to be all that interesting to druggies .

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A doctor once put me on a beta blocker. It made me so tired that I couldn't walk up a modest slope.

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Of which the active constituent is theobromine. Curiously, if you drink caffeine 12% of it gets metabolised to theobromine.

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And your evidence is? All the educational statistics I've seen for the US h ave been state by state figures, and US primary and secondary education is organised by school districts. Even New York state, which spends - on avera ge - three times as much per head on secondary education as Utah - is likel y to have individual schools that are as under-funded as anything in Utah.

Getting reliable correlation out of that kind of data isn't practicable. Ri ght-wing opinion - James Arthur comes to mind - does tend to gloss over thi s kind of point.

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bill.sloman

Been on it for a decade, in various dosages. I walk 14-15 miles a day, so it doesn't affect me much when I'm moving. Sitting is the problem. My normal resting heart rate is 50 to 55. It was down to 45 during a meeting yesterday. It wasn't easy to stay awake, though there wasn't anything important being discussed.

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krw

Gee... I see similar teaching outcomes from some of the K-12 schools.

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I have been on the end of ship and be damned management culture enough times to know that if the choice is between CEO's annual bonus and getting kit right before it ships which one takes priority.

Some things have almost no cost and are damned annoying. My all singing multi oven for instance will invariably set a microwave cooking time at

1kW of 1h 30m if you turn the knob counter clockwise a bit too violently when trying to alter the initial default start time of 1 minute.

I dread to think what a croissant would look like after that onslaught!

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Martin Brown

To get to that point requires thousands of hours of voluntary electronicking in one's teens and often before. Normal kids just don't do that.

NT

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tabbypurr

Precisely. Money does have its place but it's overstated. The prime problem is elsewhere.

NT

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stry courses didn't have much on the kinds of organic compounds that have p sychological effects until third year - ethanol and nitrous oxide are the o bvious exceptions, but they don't seem to be all that interesting to druggi es.

We studied that sort of chemistry in 'high school'. I think I consumed the chloroform we made but I don't remember! Hopefully they don't teach that to pic now.

NT

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The cost is time, engineer's costs plus missed sales.

NT

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tabbypurr

carbon foam?

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Lasse Langwadt Christensen

... and have had problems with cleaning the as-manufactured circuit boards.

Chemistry is all over your products at several stages. It dominates aging of capacitors, reliability of packages, and the flow of solder with flux.

Designing electronics is so much better, when you get a tasty lunch. Those flavors are chemistry, too!

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None of that was mentioned in high school or university chemistry classes.

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Analog designers need to deal with the restrictions of the laws of physics. Pretty much ANY software task is physically realisable. Worrying about volts and amps over time, is hard. That's why they are so few of those that can do it well. There are millions of software engineers, but sure, it is supply and demand.

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The 'million monkey' effect ?>:-}

I'm seeing a sudden surge in demand for Analog designers... AND Spice model writers... which pleases me no end... because it's my fun retirement (paying) hobby ;-) ...Jim Thompson

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Got an example?

We design electro-optical stuff, laser controllers, machinery simulators, thermocouple/RTD/cryo instrumentation. We've done serious work in NMR, FTMS, tomographic atom probes, aerospace stuff, process control, semiconductor processing, radar, particle accelerators, nuclear stuff, submarines, motion control, all kinds of weird stuff. We are specialists in that we apply electronics to problems.

Heck, almost everything involves electronics these days.

We of course "involve" chemistry in the sense that materials are important. But I can't recall anything that I studied in high school or college chemistry classes being very useful in our business. It should have been, but it was mostly Betty Crocker Chemistry.

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