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Forty years ago, sure. PPC time, not so much. They simply had no interest in what was a small market.

Macintoshes were PowerPC for awhile--after 68k, before x86.

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PowerPC is not Power. It has a similar ISA, but very different implementations and markets. Power processors are /big/ - it's only the most recent ones that are a single chip rather than a module. They are designed for mainframes, with stuff like logical partitioning, redundant cores, hot-swapping processors, etc. IBM likes to sell them as part of IBM mainframes.

PowerPC was formed from an alliance between IBM, Freescale and Apple for a workstation-class processor targeting Macs initially. The cpu, in many varieties, is also found in networking, communication systems, high-end embedded systems, automotive chips, FPGAs, etc. Some PowerPC devices are made by IBM, but most are made by Freescale (and a few are made by other companies under license).

Wrong. THe difference between PowerPC and POWER was marketing. The PPC970 (Apple G5) *was* a slightly modified Power4. They are single chip CPUs. You haven't a clue what you're talking about.

Clueless.

Nintendo's been PPC for three generations now -- not that games are a big subject for most EEs, but it is an important (>> 10M qty) embedded, high power, and cost-competitive application.

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I don't know what Nintendo is using today but the GameCube and Wii were highly modified PPC-750s (AKA "G3") specifically designed for Nintendo (the two generations were different, but not much).

How about Emacs? That seems to have very good support for VHDL. If it has networking support too, I might give it another go.

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Am 10.06.2015 um 05:56 schrieb rickman:

Networking support belongs into the OS, not into the editor.

If you want good VHDL support, use Sigasi, which is an Eclipse plugin, but runs stand-alone, too. It _understands_ VHDL, scope rules, undeclared variables/signals, entity declaration/implementation/ instantiation misfits, auto-correction. Very nice if you must absorb a foreign VHDL project. But the price is ?600/year.

regards, Gerhard

Interestingly, if I am not mistaken, it was the PowerPC processor that appeared in the Virtex IIP devices. So things have come full circle.

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I'm not looking for a VHDL tool, I was asking if Emacs, which has great VHDL support, also supports networking. Does Segasi support SSH?

I'm actually happy working with Codewright, but it stopped growing about

10 years ago and isn't supported under Linux that I am aware of. So it has been time for a change for some time now.

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It's emacs, it supports everything,e.g. see "tramp". You can also do 'ssh -Y' if the remote system supports running emacs.

I have been using emacs for 15 years but confess I seem to be migrating to eclipse now (which I gather also does remote development although I have not used this yet except for playing with Android). Eclipse is a huge great clunky fragile beast but once it is configured and working well I find I find development just flies. Everything is right there. Don't know about VHDL specifically though.

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Yes, Xilinx used PPC cores in their FPGAs (though I think they are now moving to ARM). Altera also licensed PPC from IBM, but I don't remember hearing of any Altera FPGAs with PPC cores.

Hmm, that chimera? It does everything else!

Never tried it myself.

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Actel, perhaps?

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PPC was still vital when Apple dropped it; the problem was, none of their suppliers were planning power-stingy versions for next year's laptops. Getting one designed wasn't enough, Apple always wanted to have a second source, too (like Motorola and Hitachi for the 68000).

It was a breadth-of-options threat that could have become a crisis. That, and the NextStep software Apple was relying on had cross-CPU capability.