Hysteria from the left...

But better judgement than you have. If your judgement is so good, why aren't you rich.

No, most of the regular posters to SED do not take you seriously. How do you expect anyone to take your denigration seriously.

Remember better university, higher IQ , and higher net worth. You could reveal your IQ and net worth, but I am confident that you won't do so.

Dan

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If they can be persuaded to turn down the cayenne a bit, it's wonderful. Crawfish etoufee, gumbo, oysters Mosca, oysters Bienville, stuffed shrimp, shrimp remoulade, dirty rice, po-boys, grits and eggs, red beans and rice, bread pudding, Bananas Foster, anduille, blackened redfish. It's one of the USA's only two unique cuisines; barbeque is the other.

In Louisiana, including New Orleans, all the schools, restaurants, blocks, laundramats, drinking fountains, churches, most everything was segregated. Blacks had to sit in the rear of the bus. They had their own bars and lawyers and doctors and dentists and universities.

When the Feds enforced integration, most people said OK, no big deal. It wasn't that peaceful in other places.

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John Larkin

Austin is north of New Orleans, and Texas ain't southern anyhow. Or nohow. Or something.

Much of the world population was slaves or equivalent for most of history. Some still are.

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John Larkin

Ronald Reagan said governments enslave people, like Evil Empire. Ronald Reagan said government wasn't to be trusted. Conservative messages when I was a kid preached individuality and rebellion.

Then an American president shows up preaching obedience, wall-building, and deportation - trust the government to do all that fairly. Did you think we wouldn't find new enemies?

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bitrex

So it was just Louisiana then? OK...........

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Cursitor Doom

A little detail which though obvious to anyone else here, seems to totally escape MR. Sloman!

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Yes and sadly many have grown to love their servitude!

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Cursitor Doom

Some governments still enslave their population. If you can't leave, you're a slave.

Enforcing the Constitution, and enforcing the law, are becoming novelties. That is leading to Bad Things.

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t, because your judgement is poor.

en't you rich.

I'm as rich as I need to be. Your assessment of my judgement is just as sub jective as mine is of yours, so your reasserting what you believe is someth ing of a waste of time, and does strike me as indicative of poor judgement.

ere might be a new comer that might not have read many of your posts and th ink you could have something worthwhile to post.

n't quite the same as not taking me seriously. John Larkin doesn't like not be being praised at regular intervals, and you don't like being shown up a s a trivial twit.

In your judgement.

Quite a few people won't. Denigrating krw is a popular sport - even Jim Tho mpson does it - and for people who can do joined up thinking (which doesn't seem to include you) it's pretty much obligatory.

reveal your IQ and net worth, but I am confident that you won't do so.

You got into a better university, but clearly didn't learn enough there to be able to do anything interesting after you left. If you can't find more t o boast about than your IQ and your net worth (which you haven't actually s pecified) you really should shut up.

Even John Larkin, who went to Tulane, has more to boast about than you have .

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bill.sloman

It's actually Dr. Sloman. And trust Cursitor Doom not to notice the sneaky extension from "most of the regular posters to SED" to "anyone".

Cursitor Doom isn't clued into the way that propaganda merchants puff up their claims. In that he resembles a lot of the regular posters to s.e.d.

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The population of Putin's Russia don't seem to have much affection for their situation - it's better than it was under Stalin, but still poor - but most of them have enough sense not to admit it.

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is a YANKEE!!!! :-)

Texas, for example, was not.

tention, yes, but a number of the states were not concerned whether slavery was legal or not, per se. The Confederate States wanted to be able to cho ose for themselves whether or not slavery should be legal or not, as well a s other issues. Of course, a number did want slavery to be legal, but the central issue was state's rights. Well, putatively. In reality, of course , it was all about money.

ut died out both in the North and the South. Even the number of slaves mai ntained in the South was on a slow decline, until cotton became king.

on and tobacco plantations, slave trading in the U.S. represented less than 7% of the slave traffic in the new world.

e lives. I also will not ever agree that slavery is moral. All that said, most slaves in the U.S. had a reasonably decent standard of living. In fa ct, the living conditions for most slaves were superior to that of many poo r white sharecroppers. The living conditions for household slaves on a suc cessful plantation were in fact almost opulent. Again, that is no excuse f or slavery, but the fact is almost all slaves in the U.S. were in far, far better circumstances than those in the spice islands, where a slave was an expendable commodity, with an average life expectancy of about 7 years.

It takes rather more stringent restriction to qualify for the status of a s lave.

A slave is "a person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them."

Even conscripts under military discipline don't qualify. They aren't actual ly the legal property of the army, who can't sell them, though they can - i n practice - sell their services.

The US Constitution isn't a particularly well-drafted document, and the kin d of people who claim to be enforcing it tend to be enforcing rather strain ed readings of that document, and effecting Bad Things.

Trumps attitude to the Dreamers may be within the letter of the law, but in reality he's grandstanding in a way that appeals to the more deplorable en d of his support base, which does seem to include John Larkin.

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I've noticed that when you lie you do so in an imprecise way, or by inuendo. way so that you can't be called on it.

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Jasen Betts

That's simply ignorance and fear in an educationally

There were plenty of ships to provide enough food for the whole population of Ireland - they were busy shipping food /from/ Ireland to England at the time. Irish farmers grew a variety of crops and animals

- plenty of food to go round. But they were only allowed to eat the potatoes, as the rest was destined for feeding England. Any Irish caught eating the wheat, barley, or livestock that they grew themselves, would be treated as a traitor by their English overlords, and the punishment for them and their family was worse than slowly starving to death on rotten potatoes.

True. And it was give as well as take - India got its independence because the UK could no longer afford to pay for the upkeep of its schools, transport network, legal system, bureaucracy, etc.

In the UK itself, there was no (legal) slavery since Roman times. Slave merchants from many countries transported slaves to the "new world".

The Irish had no tradition of education, because the English intentionally kept them illiterate and uneducated - that way they were easier to control. Scotland had a much stronger tradition for education (one of the conditions for the union of the crowns for England was that Scotland could keep its superior education system).

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David Brown

Nope, not that at all. He applies reality checking instead of accepting old wives' tales. From old wives of any gender. Out-of-touch-with-reality isn't denigration, it's sometimes just an accurate descriptor.

So, how many 'regular posters' do you count, and how many are both in touch with reality, i.e. capable of taking things seriously, and at odds with Bill Sloman? If you don't have any statistical data, it's YOU that cannot be taken seriously, on the subject you chose to comment on.

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whit3rd

The irony of the statement "Ask not what your country can do for you..." in 2018 is that at this point America demands quite a lot, while providing comparatively little value in return. Particularly of young people.

If I were a young(er) person I'd definitely be asking myself "What is America offering that's so valuable it's worth risking having my ass shot up every time I walk through school doors?" It's hard enough for many people just to live day to day here, I really don't think it's worth dying over.

If you're wealthy America is a fantastic place to be. If you're not it doesn't have a whole lot on offer but empty promises.

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bitrex

These "enforce the Constitution"-types are always "enforce the interpretation and parts of the Constitution that I like"-types which usually implies that the 14th, 15th, and 16th amendments don't exist.

These "enforce the Constitution"-types remind me of born-again Christians who "struggle with being a good Christian" in the sense they think America is struggling at being a "good America." Look it's all right there in the book often in a handy-dandy list being a good Christian should not require a struggle if you're doing it correctly.

If it's some enormous struggle to "enforce the Constitution" then either the document is broken, or your motivations lie elsewhere.

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e.g. all state laws which restrict a woman's options in any form to per-viability pregnancy termination are unconstitutional vis a vis the

14th Amendment.

post-viability abortions are brought up a lot in the pro-choice pro-life debate but are entirely irrelevant as they aren't protected under the Constitution/decisions of the Supreme Court, the power is reserved to the states as to how to handle it, don't talk to anyone but your state representatives about it.

Pre-viability bans or limitations are unconstitutional, period, end of discussion.

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They might have been treated as thieves, but the business of growing food w as just a business - treason wouldn't have come into it. The penalties for theft were draconian, so the practical difference wasn't great.

Perhaps.

Most of Ireland was Catholic, and the idea of being able to read the bible for yourself was frowned on. Northern Ireland had a minority Protestant pop ulation, mostly English and Scottish colonist, but doesn't seem to have bee n much better. The Scots were Protestant, and in Scotland do seem to have t aken literacy seriously.

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Well I guess I can count you as one that takes Bill seriously. So one for taking Bill seriously. Any more out there that take Bill seriously?

Dan

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