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This whole 4K and higher thing to me is nothing more than another example o f the world we live in. If you can make it sound bigger and better or attac h a number to it -- then the money machine keeps pumping. People are now co mpletely driven by marketing ploys and nothing else.

I have a 720dpi DLP (TI) projector and actually like it better than the 108

0's I've seen.

When I was a kid watching a CRT, when you would tune into the cartoons -- t he picture always looked more impressive or "sharper" but then it was all l ine art wasn't it? Besides, it was a friggin' cartoon character. Popeye was n't a real person.

When I look at my own hand in 3D it has an out of focus edge to it -- all o f the areas that have depth are like that. Anyway -- just venting and wonde ring how you design people feel about some of this silly resolution crap.

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I said I'd never be one but I can't help it.

Hell, I still drink Ginger ale.

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Well, that's your problem.

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John S

I prefer Vernor's ;-)

(I design chips for "smart" phones but wouldn't own one... phones are for talking ;-) ...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson

I have a 4K monitor on my computer, along with two 1600x1200 and a 1080p

- a total of four monitors. More pixels is wonderful :-)

When we first switched from 720p to 1080p my wife thought it was amazing, but it was a CRT. When we replaced that with an LCD she thought *that* was amazing, but it was still an analog signal. When we switched to a digital signal, she thought *that* was amazing. Then I showed her 3D.

There are some movies we like that really show off the extra resolution. There are some that really take advantage of our sound system. Old TV shows still look like old TV shows.

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DJ Delorie

On a sunny day (Sun, 10 Jan 2016 08:34:43 -0800 (PST)) it happened mkr5000 wrote in :

Ya, and ever changing standards so people have to buy new stuff. I have a 1080 3D screen, no 3D transmissions that I know about here. And there are no 4k transmissions here either.

And 'occulus' I do not, well, could be wrong ;-) see anybody spend their day with a mask in 'virtual reality', well if it picks up that would be the way into whatsit 'the matrix'.

OTOH back to nature like the demonrats and 0bama want (no pollution, no human eh farts), well that does not jive with me either.

I have this theory, and actually posted it to some news site, starting with simple particles, after the big bang or whatever,.. The creation of ever heavier, or say more complex elements, I wonder if we can just extrapolate that a bit further. If you look at our civilization, say we are making cars, those are ever more complicated 'units'. From that reasoning what we create, is just defined by natures laws, and may well be in some way or other be happening everywhere. Meet the aliens, It also goes for structures, like democracy, and other systems, just a case of entropy, and probably happening all over the universe. We cannot create or invent anything that does not follow natures law. And we are just a function of the expanding universe after the big bang or whatever came before that.

So more and more complex and bigger it will become, after 4k 16k, and after 96 kHz audio 128 kHz audio, quite honestly 8 bit 16 kHz audio would be fine with me at my age, and to see the pixels on my dunno how many inch LCD I have to be really close. so imagine with 4 k, and 16 k I'd need to use a magnifying glass.

But you may have noticed that the audio market, after .00000001% distortion moved to other things like well, Dolby, mp3, no-fidelity or whatever its called NoFi.

To keep the industry running, jobs, how ever much not needed. one day they will figure it is not about jobs, or maybe they will not, Toys, networked toys, networked cars that are controlled by big gov, chip implants (almost forgot) to tell the big IBM computah where you are, what your blood pressure is, and if you are wanted, destruct you on command Logans Run was a movie,, and yes at some point the computahs will fight nuculear war, it will all be melted, and then it will start all over again in a much grander way, probably with brain implants doing 48k resolution.

So, nothing to worry about.

I watched the old Charly Brown peanuts Snoopy movie online. On this monitor... it says 1680x1050 Hardly use the LED HD one, this one has a CFL backlight. the LED HD one has strange colors. But: LEDs were cheaper, or at least a new sales argument, this CFL one has been on 12/7 for ? 10 years? I only needed to change the electrolytics once. And the 3D HD one also has CFL backlight. (I think). Colors are OK.

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Jan Panteltje

Given the choice between 3D and 60fps/70mm, I'd choose the latter. And that's from someone who is well aware of the characteristics of 3D: I've been taking 3D pictures for >30 years, gulp.

If you sit sufficiently close to an HD screen to be able to see the full resolution, then you are too close when looking at SD pictures.

Two films really worth seeing in 70mm: Lawrence of Arabia, and

2001: A Space Odyssey.
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Tom Gardner

I just upgraded all my PCs to huge screens with 2k x 1k resolution. That lets me have more windows open at once, which is sometimes useful, but something like a browser running full-screen is too big to be comfortable, and I can't see microscopic icons. Past about

1024x680, more screen resolution isn't very useful.

As far as teevees go, super big screens and high res don't make silly crap more worth watching.

Ginger ale seems to be making a comeback, especially mixed with things.

Some old things, like a good biscuit or a comfortable chair, endure. Agreed, too many products and apps are over-the-top shouldn't-be-funded nonsense. I predict a simplify-your-life back-to-basics movement, maybe an entire generation.

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John Larkin

Popeye wasn't real?

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Kevin Glover

He didn't start all those fried chicken shops?

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John Larkin

Here I thought he was vegan--all that spinach and "I yam what I yam" stuff.

Must be some spaghetti with kale pesto in there someplace. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Phil Hobbs

Jan -- thanks for that and yes being from the Midwest, Vernors is what I dr ink. At least you guys know what I'm saying. I was going to mention audio -

- great way to put it, after damn near zero distortion comes 7 channels and selectable "sound fields". (Remember when 4 discrete channels "quad" was l aughed off the market?). And was also going to mention source material bein g worse than these resolutions.

And no it isn't my problem, it's theirs. The Fools.

As in "we fooled ya".

Shouldn't be funded nonsense -- love that.

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mkr5000

What did Popeye have to do with New Orleans anyway?

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mkr5000

The Popeye's Fried Chicken chain started there. It was much spicier in NOLA, especially in the black neighborhoods. Or less spicy for the uptown University crowd, whatever.

There are a couple near here in San Francisco. The red beans and rice side, and the cornbread, are pretty good. They sometimes have gumbo.

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of the world we live in. If you can make it sound bigger and better or att ach a number to it -- then the money machine keeps pumping. People are now completely driven by marketing ploys and nothing else.

080's I've seen.

the picture always looked more impressive or "sharper" but then it was all line art wasn't it? Besides, it was a friggin' cartoon character. Popeye w asn't a real person.

of the areas that have depth are like that. Anyway -- just venting and won dering how you design people feel about some of this silly resolution crap.

I have a hypothesis that the bullshit & bloat keeps on growing until one da y there's a war, then it's all trimmed out. After that it all starts up aga in... Only trouble is, US and UK aren't likely to face any significant war on home turf any decade soon.

NT

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tabbypurr

In Canada he not only sells fried chicken but has a chain of discount supplement shops.

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Spehro Pefhany

When I look at my own hand at arms length, against a black background, it's got very distinct, sharp edges.

You may mind hearing this from a stranger, for which I beg your pardon in advance. If your hands are blurry in your vision, perhaps a visit with an eye doctor would be a good idea? All of us can suffer from a number of correctable vision problems, and I find that life is always better with clean glasses (and, presumably, properly working eyeballs).

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Tim Wescott

If you can make people's lives better, they're willing to pay you for it. Imagine that!

Whoppie! So don't buy "what you've seen".

I got a hint for you, Popeye still looks the same on a 4K TV but there are other channels.

Well, you made it.

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krw

Tell people that it's better if your toothbrush has some weird shape with bends and bumps that knock against your front teeth when you brush the molars, and they believe it. Apparently they don't even notice it's like getting punched in the teeth, and of course they don't realize it's all because you can trademark a straight line.

Going from store to store, every store has toothbrushes in dozens of shapes, and I can't find a single one that's straight. Not one.

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Tom Del Rosso

Cheers

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Martin Riddle

Means that they are all sexually "bent"...

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Robert Baer

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