Even Arizona is caught up in the gun control mania...

"Jim Thompson" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

Watch this:

Pretty much sums it all up.

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It's fair example of the nonsense arguments used against gun control.

James Arthur can be found bleating here at regular intervals about the way that the 2nd Amendment is the basis for the political stability of the US. Oddly enough, he doesn't seem to have noticed that the 2nd Amendment didn't prevent the confederacy from trying to secede, or the consequent war betwe en the states.

The most recent example of a well-armed population was former Yugoslavia, w here Tito's enthusiasm (as an ex-partisan) for having lots of guns around c onverted what might have been the peaceful schism of cobbled-together natio n into a bloody civil war. Czechoslovakia separated into Czechia and Slovak ia without anybody getting shot. The break-up of former Yugoslavia into Ser bia, Croatia, Solvenia, Bosnia, Montenegro, Macedonia and Kosovo was rather bloodier.

The process of imposing some kind of dictatorial regime on a country can in volve taking away guns that were kept at home, but having lots of guns at h ome is no guarantee that you won't get stuck with a dictatorial regime - or ganised and armed resistance might slow down a military takeover, but it di dn't stop Franco in Spain. Having guns at home may be a prerequisite for ar med resistance, but the people who own them do need to be organised into so me kind of well-regulated militia to have any faint hope of being effective , and the 2nd Amendment was too sloppily drafted to motivate the maintenanc e of any kind of well-regulated militia.

The 2nd Amendment is more a bug than a feature.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

This is the situation in Sweden - the rape capital of europe - right now and of course there is a Marxist tyrannical government gleefully sitting back watching the whole slow-motion train wreck inexorably destroy what was at one time possibly THE most highly-civilised nation on earth.

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Understanding is a fountain of life to one who has it, But the instruction of fools is folly. Proverbs 16:22

As Cursitor Doom ought to be aware - he's been told often enough - the the high rate of rape reporting in Sweden doesn't reflect more numerous instanc es of rape in Sweden, but rather a legislative environment where more sexua l crimes as classified as rape than in most countries, more people reported alleged rapes than in most countries, and crimes that might have been rape but never got prosecuted stay in the statistics.

And the Swedish government isn't Marxist or tyrannical.

The current ruling coalition has the Social Democrat Party as the major par tner (18 ministers) and the Greens as the minor partner (6 ministers).

It's a minority government - 138 members of parliament in a 349 seat house

- and clearly not a tyranny. The Social Democrat Party is socialist, but no t Marxist - Marx got thrown out of the international socialist movement in

1872 because his enthusiasm for the "leading role of the party" was held to be undemocratic and likely to lead to tyranny (as it subsequently did).

Cursitor Doom does seem to rely on right-wing lunatic propaganda sources fo r his mis-information. The whole " the whole slow-motion train wreck" exist s only imagination of the alt-right press.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

I wonder how many kids will have to be killed in unnecessary cross-fire before this is recognised as a silly idea.

Sensible gun control is a much better solution - minimise the number of guns getting into the hands of nutters in the first place.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

Am 27.03.2018 um 21:13 schrieb Jim Thompson:

A poor country, where such is necessary.

Spoken by a person from a piddling-sized country... and mostly homogenous? ...Jim Thompson

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      Understanding is a fountain of life to one who has it, 
      But the instruction of fools is folly.  Proverbs 16:22

Jim-out-of-touch-with-reality-Thompson has failed noticed that "schrieb" su ggests Germany, whose current population is 83 million - about a quarter of the US at 330 million, but not as much smaller than the US than the US is smaller than China 1.38 billion (China is 4.2 times bigger than the US, whi le the US is only 3.98 times bigger than Germany).

Germany imported a lot of - mostly Turkish - guest workers starting around

1960, and there are now some 4 million people of Turkish descent in the cou ntry.

It's not as high a proportion - 5% - as ex-slaves in the US, which seems to have been 13% in 1870, and the Turks are better educated than the slaves e ver were, but Germany isn't all that homogenous. The Eastern European guest workers aren't exactly born and bred Germans either. Gun-happy criminals f rom former Yugoslavia are a problem all over Europe. Tito - as an ex-partis an - had his own version of the second amendment, and the consequent sloppy gun control has killed quite a few people.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney