It's going to be interesting. Teslas may go the way of PT Cruisers.
Nah. There will always be people who demand even more smug.
I drove my first hybrid last week. After figuring out that it was a hybrid (it was a rental and no one told me what it was) it was "interesting". Fairly nice on MPG (~43). I'd buy one for a commuter, long before I'd buy an electric. A rechargeable hybrid might be a reasonable compromise. Battery cost/life is still an issue, though.
I don't get why people insist on being ignorant about issues where they onl y need to get a little information. There is no indication that EV batteri es will wear out any faster than the engine and transmission of ICE autos. In fact, the data shows them to be much longer lived.
But if you are ignorant of the facts, then you will say things like, it is "still and issue".
Like they say, you can't fix stupid, especially when it's willful.
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They are not a normal replacement item - they will last the lifetime of the car
een a few replaced although in many of those it was not the cells that caus ed trouble, it was the surrounding circuitry that is in the battery pack. T hese items are mainly off the shelf electronic components and so probably r epairable even without Tesla's assistance if needed.
There are used Audi gearboxes for sale - does that mean that I should expec t to have to replace them?
So presumably they hadn't failed.
I expect that most are from wrecked cars - a Tesla is not immune to bad dri vers.
There a metal thing that extends down into the slot to grip the cable when the operator pulls on a giant wooden lever. Once in a great while the grip jams in the slot and stops the car dead, often on a hill. That spills a half dozen tourists off, and they roll down the hill for a block or two. Great fun.
Yes, parts of SF are very bad. We don't go to those parts. The rest is very nice. This is just down the block:
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I grew up in flatland, so this 3D stuff still impresses me.
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only need to get a little information. There is no indication that EV batt eries will wear out any faster than the engine and transmission of ICE auto s. In fact, the data shows them to be much longer lived.
Most wear mechanisms on cars are not time related, but rather use... miles. I had 255,000 on my truck and most people were impressed. It was still g oing strong (well not really, I suspect it was getting low on compression) but repairs were starting to add up. Over the years there had been a numbe r of significant repairs. But only one in the drive train, worn out clutch .
I met a guy with 175,000 miles on his model S and he said his battery had n ot degraded significantly. Far from the -20% Tesla set for the warranty th reshold. I wish I could find the graph Musk provided once. It plotted cap acity % vs number of charges for a number of charging ranges, e.g. 20% to 8
0%, 10% to 90%, 0% to 100%. They will caution you not to charge to 100% al l the time, but the accelerated wear is actually small. This chart showed some thousands of charges before reaching 80% capacity. That equates to >3
00,000 miles if not 500,000 miles.
My car has an 8 year, unlimited mileage warranty on the battery and drive u nit. New model 3s have 8 years or 100,000 miles on the smaller battery or
120,000 miles on the larger one. How many ICE have that?
Yes, age is not the relevant factor. But model S has been sold since 2012 which is 7 years.
Where did you see me say that? No one has said EVs won't wear out. But pr operly designed EVs should outlast an ICE. The Nissan Leaf appears to be r ather shorter lived than the Teslas. Seems they don't do as many things to protect the battery.
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Why would it expensive to add plumbing to old houses. Just install the tubing _outside_ the house as they did in UK.
Of course the obvious objection is that the exposed tubing will easily freeze. The counter argument is that exposed tubing is easy to melt with a blowtorch :-)
only need to get a little information. There is no indication that EV batt eries will wear out any faster than the engine and transmission of ICE auto s. In fact, the data shows them to be much longer lived.
is "still and issue".
Thanks for proving me right. You are totally ignorant of the facts. That' s why you have to attack the person, not the argument.
I get it. You don't know anything about EVs, but you want to hate them. G ot it!
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