Edison Did Not Invent Light Bulb!

Relieved they could get the history straight:

"Although American inventor Thomas Edison is widely credited as being the p erson who invented the light bulb, he actually improved upon previous inven tions to create the first commercially efficient, widely used light bulb. T he creation of the light bulb is thought to have begun in 1800 with Italian inventor Alessandro Volta?s invention of the voltaic wire, which provide d the first electrical current. That same year, English scientist Humphrey Davy created the first electric light. Throughout the next several decades, it is estimated that as many as 20 inventors worked on inventing a long-la sting incandescent light bulb. In 1879, Edison became the first to succeed. His bulb could burn for about 1,500 hours, compared with previous versions that lasted only minutes."

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person who invented the light bulb, he actually improved upon previous inv entions to create the first commercially efficient, widely used light bulb. The creation of the light bulb is thought to have begun in 1800 with Itali an inventor Alessandro Volta?s invention of the voltaic wire, which provi ded the first electrical current. That same year, English scientist Humphre y Davy created the first electric light. Throughout the next several decade s, it is estimated that as many as 20 inventors worked on inventing a long- lasting incandescent light bulb. In 1879, Edison became the first to succee d. His bulb could burn for about 1,500 hours, compared with previous versio ns that lasted only minutes."

interesting, I had heard he also invented the electric chair as an attempt to discredit Tesla. And, the first three users were horribly burned to death in an excruciating roasting effects.

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Robert Macy

he person who invented the light bulb, he actually improved upon previous i nventions to create the first commercially efficient, widely used light bul b. The creation of the light bulb is thought to have begun in 1800 with Ita lian inventor Alessandro Volta?s invention of the voltaic wire, which pro vided the first electrical current. That same year, English scientist Humph rey Davy created the first electric light. Throughout the next several deca des, it is estimated that as many as 20 inventors worked on inventing a lon g-lasting incandescent light bulb. In 1879, Edison became the first to succ eed. His bulb could burn for about 1,500 hours, compared with previous vers ions that lasted only minutes."

That sounds like invention to me. Just saying you want to strap some wings on a bus and fly to the moon isn't the same as doing it.

Is an execution cruel and unusual if it includes bar-b-que sauce?

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dagmargoodboat

person who invented the light bulb, he actually improved upon previous inventions to create the first commercially efficient, widely used light bulb. The creation of the light bulb is thought to have begun in 1800 with Italian inventor Alessandro Volta?s invention of the voltaic wire, which provided the first electrical current. That same year, English scientist Humphrey Davy created the first electric light. Throughout the next several decades, it is estimated that as many as 20 inventors worked on inventing a long-lasting incandescent light bulb. In 1879, Edison became the first to succeed. His bulb could burn for about 1,500 hours, compared with previous versions that lasted only minutes."

So you would say that Bardeen and Brattain didn't invent the transistor since they were both not the first to come up with the idea *and* their initial invention was hardly practical?

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Rick
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rickman

the person who invented the light bulb, he actually improved upon previous inventions to create the first commercially efficient, widely used light b ulb. The creation of the light bulb is thought to have begun in 1800 with I talian inventor Alessandro Volta s invention of the voltaic wire, which pro vided the first electrical current. That same year, English scientist Humph rey Davy created the first electric light. Throughout the next several deca des, it is estimated that as many as 20 inventors worked on inventing a lon g-lasting incandescent light bulb. In 1879, Edison became the first to succ eed. His bulb could burn for about 1,500 hours, compared with previous vers ions that lasted only minutes."

No, I wouldn't. Their thing worked.

What's more, they documented it (and its principles) well enough that other people could duplicate, advance, and improve it. Davy's whatever didn't do that--that took 78 additional years of intense, diligent, novel experimentation and research.

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dagmargoodboat

person who invented the light bulb, he actually improved upon previous inventions to create the first commercially efficient, widely used light bulb. The creation of the light bulb is thought to have begun in 1800 with Italian inventor Alessandro Volta s invention of the voltaic wire, which provided the first electrical current. That same year, English scientist Humphrey Davy created the first electric light. Throughout the next several decades, it is estimated that as many as 20 inventors worked on inventing a long-lasting incandescent light bulb. In 1879, Edison became the first to succeed. His bulb could burn for about 1,500 hours, compared with previous versions that lasted only minutes."

Used to be "reduction to practice" was the key. NOW, I'm fighting a patent scammer who patented a block diagram :-( ...Jim Thompson

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person who invented the light bulb, he actually improved upon previous inventions to create the first commercially efficient, widely used light bulb. The creation of the light bulb is thought to have begun in 1800 with Italian inventor Alessandro Volta s invention of the voltaic wire, which provided the first electrical current. That same year, English scientist Humphrey Davy created the first electric light. Throughout the next several decades, it is estimated that as many as 20 inventors worked on inventing a long-lasting incandescent light bulb. In 1879, Edison became the first to succeed. His bulb could burn for about 1,500 hours, compared with previous versions that lasted only minutes."

Hmmm... any particular block diagram, or just the concept of block diagrams? I've got one on my white board I think I'm going to erase. I don't need any lawsuits!

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Rick
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Nasty, isn't it? 

A working device proving the principle isn't required any more, since 
just a textual description of the device - right or not -  and the 
application fee will secure the patent. 

How far we've fallen...
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John Fields

the person who invented the light bulb, he actually improved upon previous inventions to create the first commercially efficient, widely used light bulb. The creation of the light bulb is thought to have begun in 1800 with Italian inventor Alessandro Volta s invention of the voltaic wire, which provided the first electrical current. That same year, English scientist Humphrey Davy created the first electric light. Throughout the next several decades, it is estimated that as many as 20 inventors worked on inventing a long-lasting incandescent light bulb. In 1879, Edison became the first to succeed. His bulb could burn for about 1,500 hours, compared with previous versions that lasted only minutes."

Basically, without divulging the client, patent scammer patented a block diagram, call it a "car", it can go forward and backward and has brakes and can turn... but absolutely nothing about how to build the car. My client _built_ the "car" and now is being sued for infringing the scammer's patent. We go to trial in November. ...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson

Correct me if I am wrong, but to get a patent you have to actually say how to build the thing, no? Even if it is as little as saying, a car with a motor and brakes, etc. How did the patent ever get granted with no description of how to build it?

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Rick
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Government bureaucrats. But I'll have my fun... lawyers are not nearly as fast on their feet as I am when it comes to technology >:-}

I once had a patent application (my first ever) challenged by a patent examiner. I responded to his denial by saying he was just too stupid to understand. The patent was granted...

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...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson

person who invented the light bulb, he actually improved upon previous inv entions to create the first commercially efficient, widely used light bulb. The creation of the light bulb is thought to have begun in 1800 with Itali an inventor Alessandro Volta?s invention of the voltaic wire, which provi ded the first electrical current. That same year, English scientist Humphre y Davy created the first electric light. Throughout the next several decade s, it is estimated that as many as 20 inventors worked on inventing a long- lasting incandescent light bulb. In 1879, Edison became the first to succee d. His bulb could burn for about 1,500 hours, compared with previous versio ns that lasted only minutes."

Humphrey Davy invented the carbon arc lamp, which isn't anything like a lig ht bulb, since the carbon rods get chewed up rather rapidly. It was a usefu l light source, if you needed a very bright light and had enough money to p ay somebody to look after it while it was burning and didn't need to keep i t burning for longer than it took to chew through a carbon rod, which wasn' t much longer than an hour or so.

The true inventor of the incandescent light bulb was Joseph Swan

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Edison basically commercialised Swan's product in the USA, and gave Swan en ough money to persuade him to ignore Edison's campaign of Larkinesque self- aggrandisement in the USA.

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ing the person who invented the light bulb, he actually improved upon previ ous inventions to create the first commercially efficient, widely used ligh t bulb. The creation of the light bulb is thought to have begun in 1800 wit h Italian inventor Alessandro Volta s invention of the voltaic wire, which provided the first electrical current. That same year, English scientist Hu mphrey Davy created the first electric light. Throughout the next several d ecades, it is estimated that as many as 20 inventors worked on inventing a long-lasting incandescent light bulb. In 1879, Edison became the first to s ucceed. His bulb could burn for about 1,500 hours, compared with previous v ersions that lasted only minutes."

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A group of predatory lawyers founded back east wanted me to review patents offering tips and suggestions of applications and directions the tehcnology would go. Sounded like an ideal job, BUT NOT! when you consider their end goal was to use the patent process to understand the inventor's intent and get to his next step BEFORE him! to literally 'box' the inventor in and force him to make payments and concessions. I RAN from that group. Kind of left me with a bitter taste for patents and telling everybody what you're doing.

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Robert Macy

the person who invented the light bulb, he actually improved upon previous inventions to create the first commercially efficient, widely used light bulb. The creation of the light bulb is thought to have begun in 1800 with Italian inventor Alessandro Volta s invention of the voltaic wire, which provided the first electrical current. That same year, English scientist Humphrey Davy created the first electric light. Throughout the next several decades, it is estimated that as many as 20 inventors worked on inventing a long-lasting incandescent light bulb. In 1879, Edison became the first to succeed. His bulb could burn for about 1,500 hours, compared with previous versions that lasted only minutes."

We already have a well-thought-out defense. I'll discuss it next year ;-) ...Jim Thompson

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| James E.Thompson                                 |    mens     | 
| Analog Innovations                               |     et      | 
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems  |    manus    | 
| Phoenix, Arizona  85048    Skype: Contacts Only  |             | 
| Voice:(480)460-2350  Fax: Available upon request |  Brass Rat  | 
| E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com |    1962     | 
              
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Jim Thompson

person who invented the light bulb, he actually improved upon previous inventions to create the first commercially efficient, widely used light bulb. The creation of the light bulb is thought to have begun in 1800 with Italian inventor Alessandro Volta s invention of the voltaic wire, which provided the first electrical current. That same year, English scientist Humphrey Davy created the first electric light. Throughout the next several decades, it is estimated that as many as 20 inventors worked on inventing a long-lasting incandescent light bulb. In 1879, Edison became the first to succeed. His bulb could burn for about 1,500 hours, compared with previous versions that lasted only minutes."

Q&D attack: Check the wording of the independent claim(s) - prolly no more that 2 at most. See if at least one of them conceivably covers toy blocks that kids use..note "toy" or "toy block" or variants is not necessary for that link. Now, given the link, that claim becomes dead.

Not so quick - find older (eg: previous) patents in similar fields that describe the block concept in their claim(s). The closer the field where this interference is found, the better the argument against their claim(s).

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Robert Baer

person who invented the light bulb, he actually improved upon previous inventions to create the first commercially efficient, widely used light bulb. The creation of the light bulb is thought to have begun in 1800 with Italian inventor Alessandro Volta?s invention of the voltaic wire, which provided the first electrical current. That same year, English scientist Humphrey Davy created the first electric light. Throughout the next several decades, it is estimated that as many as 20 inventors worked on inventing a long-lasting incandescent light bulb. In 1879, Edison became the first to succeed. His bulb could burn for about 1,500 hours, compared with previous versions that lasted only minutes."

ITYM Edison is widely credited in American rewritten history with inventing the light bulb and exploiting US corrupt patent practices to steal the market from Swann who actually invented, patented and demonstrated working light bulbs in the UK with priority.

His light bulb "invention" was a straight ripoff copy of Swann's original patented carbon filament electric bulb. See for example:

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Edison was a far better self publicist and so the fact that Swann invented it is now largely forgotten - particularly in America.

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Martin Brown

person who invented the light bulb, he actually improved upon previous inventions to create the first commercially efficient, widely used light bulb. The creation of the light bulb is thought to have begun in 1800 with Italian inventor Alessandro Volta?s invention of the voltaic wire, which provided the first electrical current. That same year, English scientist Humphrey Davy created the first electric light. Throughout the next several decades, it is estimated that as many as 20 inventors worked on inventing a long-lasting incandescent light bulb. In 1879, Edison became the first to succeed. His bulb could burn for about 1,500 hours, compared with previous versions that lasted only minutes."

It isn't true invention when you thieve the design from someone else who hasn't bothered to get an American patent in time. Swann invented the carbon filament electric light bulb and Edison copied it patented it for himself in the USA and trumpeted "his" invention to the rooftops.

See:

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And a more balanced view from University of Aberdeen complete with photos of original demonstration and commercial bulbs.

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Swan and Edison came to an arrangement, as both had the potential to destroy each other's patents.

The Humphry Davy I know doesn't have an "e" in his name?

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Mike Perkins

person who invented the light bulb, he actually improved upon previous inventions to create the first commercially efficient, widely used light bulb. The creation of the light bulb is thought to have begun in 1800 with Italian inventor Alessandro Volta?s invention of the voltaic wire, which provided the first electrical current. That same year, English scientist Humphrey Davy created the first electric light. Throughout the next several decades, it is estimated that as many as 20 inventors worked on inventing a long-lasting incandescent light bulb. In 1879, Edison became the first to succeed. His bulb could burn for about 1,500 hours, compared with previous versions that lasted only minutes."

Not to discredit Tesla, but Westinghouse. Look up "Current Wars". This being said, he also treated Tesla badly. Which allegedly was one of the reasons why Tesla chose to work for/with Westinghouse.

Klaus

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Klaus Bahner

the person who invented the light bulb, he actually improved upon previous inventions to create the first commercially efficient, widely used light b ulb. The creation of the light bulb is thought to have begun in 1800 with I talian inventor Alessandro Volta?s invention of the voltaic wire, which p rovided the first electrical current. That same year, English scientist Hum phrey Davy created the first electric light. Throughout the next several de cades, it is estimated that as many as 20 inventors worked on inventing a l ong-lasting incandescent light bulb. In 1879, Edison became the first to su cceed. His bulb could burn for about 1,500 hours, compared with previous ve rsions that lasted only minutes."

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Speaking of thieving, either that page was plagiarized from Wikipedia, or vice versa.

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In typical for-dummies fashion, that only had the preferred figure, with no text (specification). USPTO's not coughing up the original images right now, and Google didn't have it either.

In most cases of these supposed patent outrages I've looked into there were perfectly reasonable technical explanations not appreciated by the huddled masses, such as the "outrage" patent patenting some very reasonable, specific, limited, novel feature, composition, or process.

Without the particulars, I don't have a basis for thinking one way or the other. Anyway, in revised history ISTM we should revile Swan for all the carbon he caused to be emitted, and recognize him as the man who destroyed Earth, nature, and civilization.

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