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mmer and somewhat later boil, but all the water does not turn to steam at t he same time. Because it takes energy to vaporise the water. Even if you use a pressure cooker, you can not get all the water to turn to steam when you vent the pressure cooker. I do not think methane would act differentl y. And do not believe that it is illogical optimism to believe that vapori sing methane ice would require energy.

the same way it is dissolved in water.

Sort of.

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The structure of the water wrapped around the methane molecules isn't quite the same as ice, and a lot less random than liquid water, and mathane ice can contains a lot more methane than you can dissolve in water.

The thermodynamics are complicated, because the clathrate structure isn't u sually saturatred with methane.

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e the CO2 being released from a bottle of soft drink. When cold the CO2 is highly soluble and releases slowly if at all. When it warms up it release s much more quickly. Under the right conditions such as an abrupt lowering of pressure the CO2 leaves solution very rapidly.

You usually have find some heat - not a lot - to get this to happen.

e many noise sources you find here.

I didn't find it all that helpful - the .pdf I linked to probably contaons enough inormation to let me work heat flows if I stuck at it for long enoug h, and there are probably paper around that concentrate on the thermal aspe cts of the process, but I wasn't prepared to keep looking.

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And can you also not imagine a mechanism"

What is all this shit about methane. The boiling point of methane is 111 Kelvin. What part of the Earth is 111 Kelvin ? That is -162C, the coldest temperature ever recorded on Earth was in Antarctica and it was -89C.

Or do you figure it is trapped and under pressure ? Just how much pressure would it take to get the boiling point up to, -89C ?

If you find liquid methane on this planet it is under pressure. And all that pressure is contained by ice and when the ice melts it is going to blow up like a propane tank shot by a 30.06 ? BOOM !

Do I got this right or what ?

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Look up 'clathrate'.

Jeroen Belleman

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You can have many things right but still be wrong in what you are thinking.

Rick C.

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