Ecosystems across Australia are collapsing under climate change

a series of sudden and catastrophic ecosystem shifts that have occurred re cently across Australia.

e and extreme weather events, are overwhelming ecosystems? natural resilience."

othingness, except excess heat, so no one really cares just yet.

d
e

o

AD?

xplanation of why agriculture never got going in Australia.

the Pacific, but there are other things going on.

t up farms to the northe of that line. The farms were abandoned a few years later, when much less rain fell in subsequent years.

e multi-decadal changes in climate isn't yet known, but they do make life d ifficult for farmers.

Jared Diamond is a laughing stock within the plant science community, he ha s no credibility there. Archaeologists know now the aborigines permanently altered the climate of Australia with their large scale burning of forests to create more grasslands, and modern weather models have confirmed their b urning caused delayed and erratic monsoon seasons, generally making the pla ce drier than it was prior to their arrival.

Reply to
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred
Loading thread data ...

series of sudden and catastrophic ecosystem shifts that have occurred recen tly across Australia.

nd extreme weather events, are overwhelming ecosystems? natural res ilience."

ingness, except excess heat, so no one really cares just yet.

You keep banking on that massive CO2 absorbing mountain range with 25,000 f t peaks emerging just in time to save the planet. That's so much more reaso nable. Right now the Earth is a ticking time bomb about to release unpreced ented levels of methane into the atmosphere, and this will kill nearly all lifeforms quite rapidly, as in a few months time frame.

Reply to
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred

The point I was trying to make (sorry if unclear) was that if you wanted to make serious money with little effort with an advanced climate science or geophysics degree why not just walk into the CATO Institute or some oil industry think tank/front group and say: "Hi I'd like to let you know that I feel it's all nonsense, I don't have any figures or math or stuff to show you and your readers wouldn't understand it anyway. but it's my belief that it is, and I'll gladly write op ed pieces for you to that effect and I'll sign my name and credentials off on the byline."

They'd hire you immediately and pay you a ton of money for writing a blog, basically. Sure beats working your ass off for funding!

Reply to
bitrex

That is to say sometimes denialists like to say "it's all about the money" and other times that it's all about ideology. It can't be both, it has to be one or the other because both together is logically inconsistent.

If you're willing to commit grand fraud and compromise your academic ethics then there are much better ways to make boatloads of cash doing that then climate modeling.

Reply to
bitrex

Will a few million square miles of methane clathrate all erupt simultaneously? By what mechanism?

How much CO2 will it take to kill us all? Some of the most prolific eras on Earth happened with CO2 above 5000 PPM.

--

John Larkin   Highland Technology, Inc   trk 

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com 
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
Reply to
John Larkin

fredag den 6. juli 2018 kl. 20.13.06 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:

a series of sudden and catastrophic ecosystem shifts that have occurred re cently across Australia.

e and extreme weather events, are overwhelming ecosystems? natural resilience."

othingness, except excess heat, so no one really cares just yet.

0 ft peaks emerging just in time to save the planet. That's so much more re asonable. Right now the Earth is a ticking time bomb about to release unpre cedented levels of methane into the atmosphere, and this will kill nearly a ll lifeforms quite rapidly, as in a few months time frame.

formatting link
in-rooms

Reply to
Lasse Langwadt Christensen

The underwater clathrates are only marginally stable; a slight temperature rise (or pressure reduction) is sufficient to allow them to flash back into methane.

There is a lot of methane in the permafrost in the arctic regions. Many craters have been appearing in the Siberian permafrost, and the best evidence is that it is due to the permafrost melting in areas that it hasn't before (within human history, anyway!)

Reply to
Tom Gardner

Whoops.

Missed recommending that you take off your "Joo Janta

200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive Sunglasses". They have been designed to help people develop a relaxed attitude to danger. They follow the principle "what you don't know can't hurt you" and turn completely dark and opaque at the first sign of danger. This prevents you from seeing anything that might alarm you.

formatting link

Reply to
Tom Gardner

Why are there so many terrified wusses around these days?

They make bad electronic designers.

--

John Larkin   Highland Technology, Inc   trk 

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com 
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
Reply to
John Larkin

That's as invalid/meaningless as

"Why are there so many head-in-the-sand shills around these days? "They make bad electronic designers."

Reply to
Tom Gardner

Core samples taken about a decade ago in Greenland through the ice showed the remains of a temperate forest. Maybe it will return to that one day ...

Reply to
pedro

s a series of sudden and catastrophic ecosystem shifts that have occurred r ecently across Australia.

ge and extreme weather events, are overwhelming ecosystems? natural resilience."

nothingness, except excess heat, so no one really cares just yet.

000 ft peaks emerging just in time to save the planet. That's so much more reasonable. Right now the Earth is a ticking time bomb about to release unp recedented levels of methane into the atmosphere, and this will kill nearly all lifeforms quite rapidly, as in a few months time frame.

There's an even larger volume of methane on the relatively shallow arctic s eafloor, and it will thaw quite rapidly as the unprecedented violent arctic storms, due to ice loss, stir the waters, mixing warm surface water with d eep cold water.

Reply to
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred

The clue is in the name, green-land, should be a hint.

Reply to
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred

l

Nah- it appears the politicians and msm are distracting the hoi polloi as much as possible right up to the end.

Reply to
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred

the name has nothing to do with being green

Reply to
Lasse Langwadt Christensen

On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 8:08:57 AM UTC-4, Lasse Langwadt Christensen w rote:

l.com:

It most certainly does. The place was green when first settled.

formatting link

Reply to
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred

I'm not sure if the records are from this long ago but during the late Eocene around 30m years ago there was little to no ice at the poles, and there were temperate forests as far north as 70 degrees latitude in the area of what's now Baffin Island, where it was dark 18 hours a day during the winter. Small proto-monkey primates like Notharctus probably lived there.

Reply to
bitrex

The swarms of locusts will stir things up too.

--

John Larkin   Highland Technology, Inc   trk 

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com 
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
Reply to
John Larkin

A little over a thousand years ago there were forests where at least one glacier currently exists, the trees are being exposed as the ice melts. How long and how warm does it have to be to grow a forest, eh?

We are coming out of a Little Ice Age folks returning to the temperature and weather of the MWP.

formatting link

formatting link

formatting link

The last quote in the following article is interesting...

formatting link

John

Reply to
John Robertson

If you mean "returning" by "we're making it happen by pumping 40 billion tons of CO2 into the atmosphere each year" like saying an alcoholic is "returning" to his "natural state" of being habitually drunk. gosh how did it happen. who knows. It's just an unpredictable disease.

Reply to
bitrex

ElectronDepot website is not affiliated with any of the manufacturers or service providers discussed here. All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners.