Go for it. I'd get shot for even trying something like that (not that I have the power to buy production parts). Of course, the supplier would get shot for EOLing an active part, too.
That's our only option if a part goes away. The flooding in Thailand five years, or so, ago caused us no shortage of grief trying to find new suppliers of parts and the requalifying the production.
ycled parts. That's why recyclers are in business, it's a workable business model. It goes on on a large scale in the 3rd world. BUT I would never buy ICs that way, and would not build $1,000 products with them.
scavenged parts. And no, it's not why they fail. Tr, D etc have proved reli able. Cs are ok if lytics are properly tested, which depends on your source . Rs I don't see any point in. ICs are another matter, and I see a regular dribble of threads on here reminding me why not to use them.
ke expensive products. In low cost stuff it's a different matter.
There's no messing involved. Just get parts that have been tested, and Robe rt's your reused uncle.
NT
Sure there is. If the parts didn't come through the manufacturer's supply chain, you don't know if they're good. You're "messing around". If you prefer "Russian roulette", I'd agree.
that's an odd sort of illogic.
No I'm not.
AFAIK suicide has nothing to do with this thread.
NT
No, it's perfectly logical. Counterfeit parts are everywhere. If there is no traceability you're risking fakes. It's just not worth it.
Wrong.
You may not believe it but there is a bullet in that gun you have to your head.
d Robert's your reused uncle.
Is there really a big market in jellybean transistors? Power trs aren't pus hed hard.
A fair percentage of engineers on here openly admit to using reused ICs at times, we get to hear when it goes wrong. ICs must be the least reliable en d of the used parts market, because they're time consuming to test and valu able enough for suppliers to mess with. Reused parts are part of life for m any on here.
The model works. It's just different to what you do. Following your model d oesn't fly for me either.
There is no gun. There is no bullet. A few failures are par for the course, the main cause is not phoney parts.
NT
Pull the trigger again. ...and again, and again, and again, and...
I bought some "NOS" SEM 2044 VCF filter ICs off eBay one time, they were faker than a $3 bill.
Make money of rejects n
You don't never have to buy electronic parts off eBay, that's throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Just buy from well-established sellers with lots of positive feedback.
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no content there then.
NT
Better keep your day job. You'd never make in a real engineering position.
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I made it just fine.
It's ironic that your comment fails to grasp the basic idea of engineering, the choice of designs & compromises best suited to the situation. Like I s aid, your model is a nonstarter in what I do. It's useless. Any engineer un derstands that different approaches suit different situations.
NT
exactly. I was reading an old mostek RAM+RTC with internal battery. It has two enables too. Sometimes it would read something, sometimes it was stuck to HI-Z.
depends... The world is a big place.
I've got a bad SD card (real size 1/4 of what it was supposed to be) from the biggest italian (and probably European) electronic store chain. Enough known?
Frank
Utter bullshit. It also involves avoiding unnecessary risk and, more to the point in this case, unknown risk. You have no idea what the source is of the shit you're buying.
There is a difference between faulty merchandise and counterfeit parts. Brick and mortar retail is no guarantee of legitimate parts. I don't buy SDRAM from the local Fry's, no matter what brand they say it is. I've always bought Micron or Crucial. If I find flash sticks really cheap, I will buy them because they get lost long before they go bad. ;-)
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With respect you're being dense.
NT
That SD card didn't go bad or was bad. It was 100% a counterfeit card.
2G part sold as 8G, it was identified as 8G, but had 2G real space. It can't fail like that easily I think.Frank
Again, bullshit. You're being utterly careless.
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Still being rather dense then. Good bye.
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Mark L. Fergerson
Pirated products don't really exist in China. Of course they operate to local regulations and you are responsible for selecting your product when your regulations or preferences are different.
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