Dr William Haseltine MSNBC Interview

He really drops a bombshell on the pronounced incompetence ( think Sloman) of U.S. government executive management, revealing research had identified over 60 candidate antiviral drugs with very promising prospects for contro lling the corona virus way back in 2004 the time frame. None of the adminis trations between then and now pursued the development of any of them. They pretty much left the country, and the world, wide open to pandemic, when it was clear to people who know about such things that global pandemic is ine vitable and imminent. Of course, he goes into the current crisis of mismana gement from every conceivable angle.

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Or maybe the stupid bastards are dumb enough to think it is a form of 'population control'.

Does anyone remember the Ursula K. Le Guin book "The Lathe of Heaven"?

Or perhaps the BBC 1980 film adaptation.

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Did any other countries research those drugs? Why did *we* leave the world wide open?

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) of U.S. government executive management, revealing research had identifie d over 60 candidate antiviral drugs with very promising prospects for contr olling the corona virus way back in 2004 the time frame.

Did he spell out why anybody would feel an urgent need to control a corona virus infection after 2004? The SARS outbreak was over by then.

He'd have made a mint if somebody could have been persuaded to fund one of his companies to work on the problem, and no doubt he is nostalgic about th e money he could have made if they had, but there are always a lot more way s to spend research money than there is money to be spent.

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of any of them. They pretty much left the country, and the world, wide open to pandemic, when it was clear to people who know about such things that g lobal pandemic is inevitable and imminent.

True, but we didn't know it was going to be a corona virus epidemic. There are other diseases.

nceivable angle.

There nothing like hindsight for telling you what you should have done.

The fact that USA has China and South Korea as two examples of two differen t ways to tackle the epidemic that work, and hasn't bother to implement eit her of them, is a sounder basis for criticism.

Haseltine wouldn't have made money out of either of them, so he wouldn't be interested.

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an) of U.S. government executive management, revealing research had identif ied over 60 candidate antiviral drugs with very promising prospects for con trolling the corona virus way back in 2004 the time frame.

a virus infection after 2004? The SARS outbreak was over by then.

Nah- China was/is boiling over with outbreaks in corona virus epidemics in their animal industry population. The place is a cauldron of new virus gene ration with ever increasing lethality. The public health scientists watch f or this stuff, they don't wait for the main stream media to report it to th em, they actually study the underlying science of the outbreaks. They also know that what happens in the animal world eventually jumps into humans.

t of any of them. They pretty much left the country, and the world, wide op en to pandemic, when it was clear to people who know about such things that global pandemic is inevitable and imminent.

e are other diseases.

Actually yes we did.

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oman) of U.S. government executive management, revealing research had ident ified over 60 candidate antiviral drugs with very promising prospects for c ontrolling the corona virus way back in 2004 the time frame.

ona virus infection after 2004? The SARS outbreak was over by then.

n their animal industry population. The place is a cauldron of new virus ge neration with ever increasing lethality.

Name one.

e main stream media to report it to them, they actually study the underlyin g science of the outbreaks. They also know that what happens in the animal world eventually jumps into humans.

But not when.

ent of any of them. They pretty much left the country, and the world, wide open to pandemic, when it was clear to people who know about such things th at global pandemic is inevitable and imminent.

ere are other diseases.

Rubbish. Cite any publication that makes that claim.

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Dengue fever is the most recently listed epidemic, and the virus involved i s not a corona virus.

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I told you once before, I will not be bothered looking up links. Suffice to say I just read through a very long article about this corona nightmare in the Chinese animal industries in the national library of medicine. China i s a mess.

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You have to look them up to read them.

nightmare in the Chinese animal industries in the national library of medic ine. China is a mess.

You had to find a journal reference to do that. You could at least quote th at.

If you can't remember where you put the bit of paper on which you wrote it down - a very old-fashioned habit - you can't really be relied on to retain the details of what you were reading, which might explain some of your mor e confused postings here.

The Chinese enthusiasm for eating bizarre wild animals does expose them to a lot interesting viruses, but the African enthusiasm for bush meat is just as bad.

And claiming that we knew that next epidemic was gong to be a corona virus was total nonsense.

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I don't use paper for reading and writing anymore.

Run a google search on : ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

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That's a rather extensive website. I do visit it from time to time. but you 'd need to post a rather longer search string to get down to an individual paper, as you really ought to know.

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is what a specific paper reference looks like.

Somehow I suspect that you've got rather fewer working neurones than the 86 billion that Suzana Herculano-Houzel has worked out that most of us have.

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Laughable you should accuse me of being deficient in neurons when it's you who can't can't figure out how to find what you need there.

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I have no trouble finding what I need there. The problem is finding what yo u think you are quoting, when you are clearly mangling whatever it was you think you read.

Shuffling through even a small universe of possibilities takes more effort that it is worth.

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My feelings exactly.

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If those were exactly your feelings, you would post links to the obscure published material that your arguments rely on.

You don't, which tells us that you don't know what "exactly" means.

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This took all of 3 seconds to find. Not the NLM but a redirecion. Not going to read it, it wasn't the original one I read but looks the same:

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It doesn't claim that the next epidemic is going to be a from a corona virus, which was the fatuous idea that you were trying to peddle.

"As no one knows what, when, and where the next novel zoonoses will emerge, we must be prepared for the unexpected."

This disagreement between what you thought you saw, and what was actually there to see, is why it's nice to see exactly where you thought you got your deluded misapprehensions.

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