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Trump's presidential status doesn't stop his tweets from being dumb. He's got staff who are supposed to stop him from making a fool of of himself in public, but he seems to be bypassing them, which another dumb thing to do.

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The point was that Sherlock Holmes is a fictional character. Real Sherlocks with the capabilities of the fictional Sherlock Holmes don't exist in the real world, any more than Batman or Spiderman does. Irrespective of whether they acquired their "super powers" through the proper breeding, or simply through applying their enormous brain.

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bitrex

Nor does anything we do here stop you from your asinine made up facts and comments.

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M Philbrook

Because right-wing chat is predictably bad for business; before too long someone geriatric wingnut starts ranting about which Planned Parenthood or federal building they want to bomb, or who they'd like to drive over today, or "we really need to do something about the Jews" and it makes the company look bad.

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bitrex

Good point! :-D

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Cursitor Doom

That's hilarious. I wonder how hard they have to work to maintain the illusion that hes actually running anything.

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eeding or class. We've all seen experienced employees screw things up due t o failure to think logically, and sometimes it's easy to see the solution d espite no experience in the field if you have logic on your side. Sherlock stands for and promotes philosophy, nothing else. In the 1800s it would be almost inevitable that someone with such a skill would be well educated, so he was.

se: the reality is that both win at different times. To claim that either o ne could never win is folly.

that's completely not the point.

Lots of people exist who have studied logic. That's all the fictional Sherl ock had. And enough money I suppose to be able to take an hour off and affo rd a cab ride.

Logical thinking is not a superpower. He just learnt and applied logic. Lot s of people do it.

NT

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tabbypurr

"He" didn't learn anything, he's a fictional creation of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle who for all Doyle's knowledge of logic one would imagine one would need to apply to the creation of the character, to my knowledge didn't once solve a single crime on his own.

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bitrex

Except Socialists.

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Cursitor Doom

How many poison gas attacks has the Syrian air force launched lately?

What is the maximum US corporate tax rate now?

Pay attention: things are happening.

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John Larkin

His argument would not be "Science was wrong before", he would ask, What is the weakest evidence for the theory that black holes exist? What are just a few reasons that other scientists think that black holes don't exist? As a scientist which one of those reasons have the most merit? He's not out to say he knows a theory either way, he's just asking questions, if a scientist can't hold up to the question, well...

Mikek

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bitrex

All questions to which answers are readily available from the most well-credentialed authorities via a quick Google search. If he finds what he finds unsatisfying well unfortunately that's the best people got, take it or leave it.

Guys like Rowe I think tend to idealize the notion of the lone genius who manages to overthrow decades of scientific thought or consensus and "prove them all wrong"; to the highly ego-driven this is an appealing storyline that satisfies some personal need. And it's not like it hasn't happened, it's just that it's the extreme exception, not the rule.

To say that it's a recent development for science to question the existence of black holes is ignorant of history, there have been papers published with regularity for decades laying out mathematical arguments of the same. Neither Rowe nor myself could likely understand the arguments they make, but in the scientific community the consensus seems to have been that they are all fatally flawed in some way. And again, I likely would not have the technical skill to understand the counter-arguments. So who knows. Maybe it's all not real and we don't know anything about anything. I'm not sure that this is a particularly productive line of thought, though.

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bitrex

Because snowflakes can't stand to have their propaganda challenged. That's you, in a nutshell.

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krw

^ good

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krw

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eeding or class. We've all seen experienced employees screw things up due t o failure to think logically, and sometimes it's easy to see the solution d espite no experience in the field if you have logic on your side. Sherlock stands for and promotes philosophy, nothing else. In the 1800s it would be almost inevitable that someone with such a skill would be well educated, so he was.

se: the reality is that both win at different times. To claim that either o ne could never win is folly.

"Conan Doyle repeatedly said that Holmes was inspired by the real-life figu re of Joseph Bell, a surgeon at the Royal Infirmary of Edinburgh, whom Doyl e met in 1877 and had worked for as a clerk. Like Holmes, Bell was noted fo r drawing broad conclusions from minute observations."

Conan Doyle's books credited the fictional Sherlock Holmes with doing bizar re research, with the clear implication that Holmes knew more stuff than mo st people. It wasn't that his brain was enormous, but rather that it was we ll-stocked with relevant information (which didn't happen to include the Co pernican model of the solar system, which Holmes rejected as information th at he didn't intend to remember when it was explained to him by Watson).

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bill.sloman

breeding or class. We've all seen experienced employees screw things up due to failure to think logically, and sometimes it's easy to see the solution despite no experience in the field if you have logic on your side. Sherloc k stands for and promotes philosophy, nothing else. In the 1800s it would b e almost inevitable that someone with such a skill would be well educated, so he was.

else: the reality is that both win at different times. To claim that either one could never win is folly.

herlock had. And enough money I suppose to be able to take an hour off and afford a cab ride.

Lots of people do it.

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Julian Barnes wrote a novel around the efforts Conan Doyle made to get Geor ge Edalji acquitted of a crime of which he had been incorrectly convicted. I've read it. It doesn't show Doyle as any kind of great detective, but he certainly did get involved in at least one criminal case.

It's now been made into a TV series.

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bill.sloman

The logic here is that socialists come to conclusions that krw doesn't agree with, so they can't be applying logic.

Krw can't tell the difference between a socialist and a communist, which may complicate the issue.

The idea that socialists might have access to facts of which krw is unaware is inaccessible to krw. His fundamental assumption is that he knows everything that anybody needs to know, and that every single fact he knows is absolutely correct.

A satirist would hesitate to invent a character like krw. Satire has to be more or less credible.

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bill.sloman

Pay closer attention. There's a lot less happening than you'd guess from the Twitter-flood.

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bill.sloman

breeding or class. We've all seen experienced employees screw things up due to failure to think logically, and sometimes it's easy to see the solution despite no experience in the field if you have logic on your side. Sherloc k stands for and promotes philosophy, nothing else. In the 1800s it would b e almost inevitable that someone with such a skill would be well educated, so he was.

else: the reality is that both win at different times. To claim that either one could never win is folly.

herlock had. And enough money I suppose to be able to take an hour off and afford a cab ride.

Lots of people do it.

Sherlock's fictionality is barely relevant, I've seen no lack of real life examples of logic trumping experience and what is in many ways more in-dept h knowledge.

NT

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tabbypurr

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