Chinese Math Students Vs English Math Students

English are kinda moronic:

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The USA/China Nobel ratio is 353/8.

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John Larkin

That phony award originates in the west, give it time, Asia will dominate that too. The original Nobel family was not particularly bright either.

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bloggs.fredbloggs.fred

Are you Chinese? You seem to have a pro-China fixation.

The rigorous Chinese educational system is sort of like the Indian one. Lots of discipline, little tolerance for mavericks, the people with new ideas. Americans sure invent a lot of stuff.

This is sci.electronics.design, and good design is fundamentally insubordinate. It is not fundamentally mathematical.

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John Larkin

I'm calling nationalistic bs on that claim. Americans fell below the 50% point of US patent inventors way back in the 80s, that's going on 30 years now. Good design may not be mathematical, but it's done with mathematical rigor, otherwise it's just a hack.

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bloggs.fredbloggs.fred

All sorts of silly stuff gets patented, and usually only the USPTO profits. What useful, successful products or technologies have the Chinese or the Indians invented?

"Just a hack" is meaningless. Good design is whatever works and sells. There's not much math behind software; some of the most successful software on the planet was written by college dropouts.

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John Larkin

Are you outta your mind?!?

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Huh? Are you outta your mind?!?

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bloggs.fredbloggs.fred

OK, the electronic cigarette.

Impressive.

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John Larkin

Okay- now you're coming across as a knuckle dragging mechanic:

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" Dr. Laura Boykin won a 2015 TED Fellowship for her whitefly research. Here, she discusses how Magnus and the "amazing" Pawsey Centre staff are aiding this urgent work"

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bloggs.fredbloggs.fred

Goodt work, but hardly electronic design.

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Another week gone by, and another week of great stories. Cameras catch the images of the cutest animals and the mysteries of the

September 11, 2015 3:26 pm | by Ernie Austin, Associate Editor, DFI News | News |

Another week gone by, and another week of great stories. Cameras catch the images of the cutest animals and the mysteries of the universe.

a hoverboard company.

For a scientific computing site, they sure have a thing for cute animals. This is just yet another goofy breathless popular-science press-release site.

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John Larkin

The British Royal Society has a lot of Nobel-prize-winner fellows. What's not usually mentioned is that if you do win a Nobel Prize, the British Royal Society will almost always invite you to become a fellow.

The USA has a long history of head-hunting brilliant researchers from other countries, and giving them well-paid jobs (and US citizenship if they want it). Some of them get Nobel prizes.

The US isn't actually a great place to live (though better than many) but if you are head-hunted into a wealthy-person job it's not too bad.

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Europe now has a bunch of emminent-researcher prizes aimed at slowing down this head-hunting - Leibnitz in Germany

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Spinoza in the Netherlands

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Since one of the Dutch winners of the Spinoza Prize - Robert Dijkgraaf (in 2003) is now running the Institute for Advanced Studies at Princeton

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it hasn't entirely worked, but Robert Dijkgraff is an admirable character, and may well help civilise the USA, if it's remotely possible.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Bill Sloman

Are you an imbecile? Of course the press release section is going to have press releases, doh.

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bloggs.fredbloggs.fred

At least find the angle between lines AD and BC1. Can you do at least that much? See, they wouldn't even admit you to university in China.

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It's unfortunate that they have to ask ridiculous questions like this, but what else can they do? Eventually education will be democratized to an ext ent that renders the traditional institutions irrelevant, but the Chinese a nd Indian educators need a process that works right now. When you have ten s of millions of applicants, you have to weed some of them out somehow.

Speaking as someone who would've been weeded out pretty early by a test lik e that, I'd say the best they can hope to do is to avoid making it impossib le to succeed any other way.

-- john, KE5FX

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John Miles, KE5FX

Off the top of my head, Yagi antennas and white LED's.

Dan

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dcaster

I can't speak Chinese either.

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John Larkin

Both Japanese.

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John Larkin

Academic institutions, especially Chinese and Indian ones, cull applicants on the basis of rigorous and difficult analytical skills. Thay get a lot of good minds that way, but they exclude a lot of creative thinkers, the kind of people who invent things and change industries.

I've worked with some brilliant Indian engineers, but they tend to avoid practical stuff and radical ideas, which is I think a legacy of the caste system, sort of like the classic distain that the Brits had for people "in trade."

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John Larkin

Gunpowder? Been a while.

The thing that captured Chinese culture was Mandarinism - that which is not forbidden is required, and that which is not required is forbidden.

Sound familiar?

It takes a while to get past something like that sort of epistemic closure. But prior to the benefits of large scale Mercantilist European trade, China had a standard of living Europe could only drool over.

Unfortunately, they had that same standard of living several centuries later.

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Les Cargill
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Les Cargill

I've heard that interpersonal relationships in the Netherlands and Scandinavian countries have been gutted so badly by sex-negative militant feminism that most men can't remember the last time they got laid.

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bitrex

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