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Pork barrel politics predates national socialism by a century or so, and an y kind of socialism by about fifty years

The process by which politicians give their cronies very profitable contrac ts to do work for the governments is called "cronyism".

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and has been around for as long as humans have had politics. In classical G reece public appointments were made by casting lots to avoid it - they did have the idea that the Gods influenced the way the lots fell, but the pract ical result was that the politicians didn't.

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Trump's negotiation strategy has always been to offer deals that are attractive in the short term, no matter how disastrous they might be in the long term.

His businesses filed for bankruptcy six times - from 1991 to 2009.

Not a guy that you want running a country that you hope to keep living in for the rest of your life.

For the top 1% of the income distribution.

Reagan was trained and professional actor. The people who wrote his lines could rely on him delivering them. Trump doesn't know much, and hasn't got the attention span that would let him learn more.

In the same way that Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts propsered and grew?

And the effect will be negative - pushing up the budget deficit is always a bad idea. As Dubbya proved ...

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The US government seems to go out of it's way to make their social welfare spending ineffective and to generate the minimum possible actual welfare. S candinavia and Germany seem to be able to do it better, positively betterin g the lot of the folks on the margins.

Sweden collects 55% of it GDP in taxes and Germany 45%. James Arthur is muc h happier to live in the US where the government collects only 30%. It isn' t as if James Arthur employs anybody, so the absence of a productive work f orce for him to hire doesn't worry him at all.

James Arthur hasn't actually listed any examples of the pent-up creativity which has been released. Trump's tweets are creative, but he has been a lia r all his life, and his becoming president hasn't changed that.

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My concern for the country mostly isn't over violent illegal aliens, but the peaceful ones who vote socialist, voting to use the government to take for them that which the violent offender takes more honestly (and more efficiently, sans all the middlemen). Which is why Democrats, frankly, have been so keen on importing as many as possible.

And it's working. It sure flipped California, former land of Reagan.

We might as well send ballots to foreign countries and let them vote in our elections.

Cheers, James

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You guys should come out again some time. Haven't seen you in ages.

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John Larkin

I think that in the case of Mexicans, they can't count on automatic Democratic voters. Most Mexicans are hard-working, Christian, family people... ultimate conservative voters.

Obama got 27% of the hispanic vote; Trump got 29.

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Most architects these days have contracts with chain stores, so most of what they do is design the layout of shopping aisles, using their expertise to ensure the fire exits are adequate. Occasionally they get to use a little creativity on an apartment building but it's a tedious profession.

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Really? Is that how the vote went in California?

If only that were true. Obama averaged 69%; Hillary only managed

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That's still a >2:1 net for big government socialism, the pervasive custom of peoples in lovely countries people want to leave that most of the aliens come from.

Hence "The Center For American Progress (CAP) Action Fund circulated a memo on Monday calling illegal immigrants brought here at a young age ? so-called ?Dreamers? ? a ?critical component of the D emocratic Party?s future electoral success.

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She's right, too.

People from eastern, former communist countries generally vote for individual liberty, like regular Americans. (As do some from our south, but only some.)

I grew up in California long before you made it west. It was a completely different place, full of sensible, reasonable, laid-back happy people, fiscally responsible, non-welfare-seeking folks. It regularly voted Republican, back when Republicans were more classical liberal (rather than today, when they are essentially 1980's tax-and-spend Democrats). (Shoot, California elected Reagan governor, then president.)

The flood of newcomers with different traditions of government pretty well flipped that up-side down.

Cheers, James

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dagmargoodboat

A great number of people are mostly steered by fear. Easiest thing to do is ignore them.

Where do you get those bizarre ideas about Americans?

Show us some novel or beautiful things that you have designed.

I am not rah-rah Team American or anything, but I do observe a majority of likeable, generous, decent people here. And I see a huge amount of scientific and engineering innovation.

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I think it's part of the whole liberal identity politics thing. White males are all brutes, and the only way to be noble is to be part of some minority.

Only one T0-3 to soic piggyback a week. :^)

George H.

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George Herold

Since Trump was elected, I've had people who support him threaten to murder friends of mine, in a direct fashion. I can only imagine how some of his supporters would react should one of my friends threaten to murder them in the name of...whatever.

Some act like I'm the intolerant asshole here. I feel I'm being extremely polite, as a professional courtesy. And they say liberals are intolerant.

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OK, that's not my experience though. I don't see things have changed that much since Trump. Jim T threatens to shoot all the liberal weenies with about the same regularity*. Maybe liberals have started to push back a little more and that makes more tension. (I hardly hear anything from the TEA party these days. Maybe Trump has subsumed them.)

Yeah I don't know, about somethings we are all opinionated assholes. For me personally, I think one of my character flaws is expect better behavior from my allies than adversaries. So I'm more offended when you say something I don't agree with. I'll try and curb that.

One thing I do is not post my responses. I'll write something, look at it and say, well that's how I feel, but it adds nothing to the discussion. And throw it out. I feel better haven written it, but don't need to add to the noise.

George H.

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I'm descended from a long line of New England Puritans stretching back to the 1600s; I had a 4x great grandfather who served in the Revolutionary War, Benjamin Coe (and I'm distantly related to Barbara Bush via that branch of the family.)

Many of my grandfathers were Presbyterian and Episcopalian ministers. The "Moral Majority" religious right fashion of Evangelical Christianity from which Trump, and other modern Conservative candidates draw much of their support, is as inscrutable and alien to me as I'm sure it would've been to them and the Founding Fathers as well, no more immediately comprehensible than surely any fashion of Islam. Revelations and raptures and tribulations and "Masculine Christianity" and "Dominion Theology" and packing 50,000 worshipers into stadiums and telling them God wants them to have money and calling people "snowflakes" and other baby-talk terms and all this, what is even this? and what has it to do with the Bible?

It seems like the most absurd fashion of paganism, these people should go back to howling at the moon if that's what they really want.

If this is what America is now and was always supposed to be, well...I don't comprehend it anymore.

Ah, you too? :-)

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The kind of centrally planned economy that call itself socialist and is act ually communist hasn't contributed all that many immigrants to California. Countries that run effective welfare systems - which calls for a bigger gov ernment than James Arthur wants his taxes to pay for - have contributed rat her more, which has fed expectations among Californian voters.

What James Arthur refuses to recognise is that an effective welfare system is useful investment in a healthy and productive work force. James Arthur w ould prefer his work force - he doesn't have one, so he isn't worried abot their productivity - to be dumb enough to vote for Trump and dumb enough to swallow the twaddle that James Arthur posts here (and presumably elsewhere ).

This encourages his natural tendency to cheapskate on education and the sor t of support for the poor that leaves poor kids well-enough fed to fully ex ploit any education taht they might be offered.

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California isn't exactly full of immigrants from Romania and other actual c ommunist countries. Most of them head for Germany, Scandinavia and the UK, where the disadvantages of not members of the local privileged class aren't as acute.

Or at least in the bits where he lived - his father was doctor.

The kind of area that was overflowing with little old ladies in tennis shoe s.

With a lot of help from the people who wrote Reagan's script and blocked in his moves.

Electing Reagan is the kind of mistake you don't repeat.

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Dad was Catholic, mum I'm not sure. I was baptized Episcopalian*, and remember the Sunday school. At age ~10 I started going to UU and that's mostly been 'my' religion since. (less lately.) I'm not sure why you are so down on religion. In general, I've found all religious people I know to be 'good people'. (whatever that means to you... people who would make fine neighbors is my definition.) How can having places where people gather, worship, talk and celebrate life be bad? Presbyterian's and UU's are nice liberal places, go visit one. There's always been religious fanatics, (my mind goes to Sinclair's Lewis's 'Elmer Gantry', I read the book after seeing the movie, (In general I prefer to read the book first.))

To side step the discussion, I was reading David Brooks today,

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It's a lot about Walt Whitman, In my mind he's the liberal half of Abe Lincoln. (the conservative) Quoting WW, via DB {The purpose of democracy, is not wealth, or even equality; it is the full flowering of individuals. By dispersing responsibility to all adults, democracy "supplies a training school for making first class men." It is "life's gymnasium." It forges "freedoms athletes" - strong and equal women, courageous men, deep-souled people capable of governing themselves.}

Walt had a way with words. And to me they ring true.

George H.

*which mum figured was as close as you could get to Catholic, with out swearing things to the pope.
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George Herold

Something's not right. if the manifest said it was %1 and 50 years later it tests as 1.1%. that's out by a factor of about 20 given deuterium's 12.3 year half-life. that link also claims it wasn't all 1%, there were part barrels of stronger stuff that were recovered imediately after the sinking because they floated. but apparently not enough.

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Deuterium is the stable isotope of hydrogen. It's tritium which is unstable with a half-life of 12.32 years.

If the manifest said it was 1%, and the current analysis says 1.1%, that's not a problem. If the manifest had said 1.0% it might have been claiming a higher precision than could have been managed at the time.

Heavy water is 10% heavier than regular water, so a 1% heavy water content would make the sample 0.1% heavier than regular water. Regular quantitative chemical analysis is barely accurate enough to pick that up.

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Then why doesn't that happen to religious people in the US?

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Rob

Because you can't ignore something you're persecuting. It's not possible for you to ignore them.

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