Could some electronics guru point me to a working(i.e., correctly simulates) astable multivibrator SPICE model with MOSFET only. I have two working BJT based astable multivibrator SPICE models. However, my MOSFET based astable multivibrator model, works as per hand calculation, but shows no oscillations with a regular SPICE .TRAN analysis. I have tried the standard SPICE tricks, as having voltage pulses on some nodes to kick start the oscillations, but these have no effect. Any hints, suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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They will settle both on. The culprit is that there is no path for the timing capacitor charging current on the gate side when the gate is high. A MOS differs from a bipolar transistor or JFET (and also a tube) that there is no current via the gate when the transistor is turned fully on.
The following thing works. The charge path is via diodes D7 and D8 in the Basic version. The price to pay is that the transistors do not turn fully on.
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2nd version is clever... bias "class-A" guarantees starting (in real life, though .TRAN doesn't always self-start). ...Jim Thompson
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Yep, I do that all the time. I usually do the 3-inverter version, with lots of snap and always starts. ...Jim Thompson
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I think you have hit the nail on the head. As I do not use LTSpice, but Ngspice, could you please post your netlist in the form of my own netlist (please see below):
Here is one more, the classic emitter-coupled astable migrated to MOS. The output is not logic levels and not too beautiful, but the thing starts without kicking.
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