artificial intelligence

hai guys i am trying to create my own robot but before that i would like to know the intense relation of artificial intelligence with electronics and particularly mobile technologies like j2me,cdma,etc,. if anyone wants to say something regarding artificial intelligence or tronics are free to post here. if you are engineering students feel free to say about the rcent develpoments in artificial intelligence.

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bobgalle
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Ahhh ! GMAIL ! Enough said.

Graham

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Pooh Bear

Articial intelligence is an oxymoron. You should concentrate on more specific subjects, like image analysis and data fusion.

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bill.sloman

India- ignore it.

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Fred Bloggs

I think most AI researchers are going about it wrong. Biological intelligence strikes me as emergent; the cumulative effect of independent modules running in the brain (and to a lesser degree ganglia) in multiply connected feedback loops. Each module processes data sets in a deterministic manner, but the "free will" interpretation of intelligence emerges from the aggregate I think because of attractors in the setpoint interactions between all the overlapping feedback loops.

Mark L. Fergerson

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Mark Fergerson

If you take artifical intelligence classes, you will find the concepts somewhat simple and boring, but the mathematical notions and programming concepts are useful.

''Machine learning'' is similar to AI in some vague, general way, and could be useful in making a robot.

"Machine vision" is another area that could make your project impressive in function.

Don't be put off by any curmudgeons... go for it !

Geoff

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engineer

Amen. I think that as well!. john

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John Jardine.

Read the Society of Mind, Marvin Minsky MIT

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Genetic algorithms are they way to go on a microcontroller.

Ian

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Ian Bell

Maybe see if you can find some real intelligence, first.

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Pig Bladder

I agree.

Yes.

Yes.

But with a quantum random component.

"Free will" can't be a result of an aggregate of deterministic effects. Either something is deterministic from existing conditions, or it isn't. No amount of deterministic behaviour can end up as non deterministic, i.e. "free will" is a result of non-deterministic factors, to wit, random processes, and isn't even "free will", to wit,

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Kevin Aylward

Whoops! Where IYNSHO does this "quantum random component" enter into it, exactly?

Well, you introduced the "quantum random component".

Besides, was the way our last conversation terminated too Zen for you?

If you don't recall, you helped me prove that your assertion that one cannot change one's mind was false (via Godel), and you responded (roughly) "OK, but just try to change your mind, you can't". I demonstrated that I could do so by deciding you were not even interested in being proved wrong _even after you helped me do so_, and then quit the conversation.

Mark L. Fergerson

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Mark Fergerson

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OK, here I'll beg to differ with you, Kevin.

You say "quantum random", I say "Free Will." I further claim that my assertion is verifiable, but only if you acknowledge the existence of Free Will.

Yeah, I know, it's kinda like saying, "I can prove that you'll survive jumping off of this cliff, as soon as you jump off the cliff." ;-)

But what do you have to lose by reading and thinking about your prejudgements, if there would be a different way of looking at Reality?

And really, Kevin, what meme has you in such a death grip that you'd rather die than see that it's lying to you?

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Rich The Philosophizer

Free Will is the very foundation of the Universe as we know it, plus all the rest. ;-)

Here's a quote right from the front page: "Above all, you have free will. It is my desire that you and only you choose who you will be and what you will do. I hope you choose to be my host here on Earth. I hope you allow my presence within you to express through you. And I hope you and I will work together collaboratively to bring the healing that your deepest Self and the Earth have been calling for." --

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And, once you acknowledge your own Free Will, you can start healing her. Or, more accurately, provide a channel for healing light while she heals herself. ;-)

Good Luck! Rich

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Rich The Philosophizer

Oh, dear.

I'd like to offer my sincere apologies, Kevin. You don't remember that conversation because I had it with Steve Walz.

Mark L. Fergerson

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Mark Fergerson
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Anyways, some idle conjecture ... [1] A few months ago I was somewhat annoyed to realize that "I" exist as no more than a kind of interlinked collection of general purpose 'graphic' style primitives. Earliest memories through to those of a few seconds ago being regenerated on command and (critically), 'on the fly' from an assembly of stored, linked, universal piece parts and coloured in with some artful general purpose 'textures' who's sole purpose is to cheaply flesh out my mental image by adding a convincing taste of reality. (The games proggers will know exactly what I mean). Essentially 'I' is just heavily (lossily) compressed collections of simple data points. They're pretty static. Any interesting stuff will be linked in at lower compression ratios and accumulate with time. The boring stuff gets massive lossy compression hence 'forgotten' quickly.

[2] Last week I had fun playing with a plastic product casing that had been formed 'from nothing' inside a tank of liquid resin. The resin hardens at the precise point of contact of 2 scanned laser beams and an exceedingly accurate, 3D component can be generated straight from a computer CAD package.

So, if "me" is pretty much physically static in my head, (disregarding any machine support stuff like vision, taste etc) it doesn't seem beyond reason that "me" can be electrically copied micron^3 by micron^3, using some kind of dual/quad electromagnetic scanning method. A precise, sensitive, XYZ scan probe would be a hiqh quality, possibly unsolvable, technical problem but a scan (working at the micron stepping level) could generate valid results even on a subject laying/sitting there (very patiently!) for a day or two. Were only dealing with a GB or so of data points but the time consuming element would be in the stimulus test and establishing of numerous 'linked lists'. We're all issued with one of these memory things, so it's quite easy to look in, give it some work to do and try figure what these 'memories' may really consist of. I looked in mine and could see only bits of fluff :) john

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John Jardine.

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