Anyone Ever Read the Usage Agreements?

I looked at the Foxit Reader license agreement and found this. I'm not abl e to search the agreement, I can barely read the small font and the window only allows me to see a tiny portion of it at a time. Nothing obtrusive he re!

Then on top of insult, they want to force Macafee products on me along with a bunch of other products!

The software may collect usage information to support the integrity of feat ures and enhance the quality of the software. Such usage information may co ntain personally identifiable information when it is reasonably needed for providing necessary services to the user, or when the user consents to prov iding such information and only to the extent as allowed by the applicable laws. The usage information collected includes: · File name · Author · Created time · Created device · Creator application · Creator location · Document pages · Document size · Document Versions · Document version description · Other usage information

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The Google Chrome license at least at one point said something to the effect that by using their software you agree to grant them an unlimited royalty-free license to your content:

"?you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services."

but I believe this was eventually changed they probably just c "Microchip?s authorized representatives will have the right to reasonably inspect, announced or unannounced and in its sole and absolute discretion, Licensee?s premises and to audit Licensee?s records and inventory of Licensee?s use of the Software, whether located on Licensee?s premises or elsewhere, at any time, in order to ensure Licensee?s adherence to the terms of this Agreement."

Well I wouldn't show up unannounced in Texas, at least.

Lots of EULAs insist that by agreeing you waive any right to class-action lawsuit e.g: "Any Dispute Resolution Proceedings, whether in arbitration or court, will be conducted only on an individual basis and not in a class or representative action?" which seems unconstitutional on its face vis a vis the 7th Amendment - you can't sign away your Constitutional rights.

The NFL says that you violate your "NFL-watching license" simply by publishing a written description of an NFL game you watched with your own eyes.

I was surprised people just got around to boycotting the NFL just recently over entirely peaceful and non-disruptive player protests, given that there have been so many other great reasons to boycott them for decades....

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able to search the agreement, I can barely read the small font and the win dow only allows me to see a tiny portion of it at a time. Nothing obtrusiv e here!

with a bunch of other products!

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Visibility my friend. The player protests were there in front of god and e veryone. User agreements are hidden away, made intentionally hard to read and changeable with no notice whatsoever with the onus on the licensee to k eep up with changes. In any other context these would not even be legal.

I recall when the idea of breaking the shrink wrap was equated to signing t he license on software. I believe they struck that down so now the first t ime you fire up the software you have to sign. But users have very little protection in such cases. At some point a major case will hinge on some on erous language in one of these particularly hard to read agreements and it may be decided that they are not indeed legal. Some states have legislated the posting of T&C on a web page on the site, updated at will, to be perfe ctly legal. But just wait until one impacts the state!

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In the UK/EU there are actually a lot of consumer protections that make vast chunks of USA licences toilet paper. A key principle is that absolutely nothing that they get you to click agree to is enforceable if it contradicts your statutory rights. You cannot sign away your rights. Period.

For example, the UK Consumer Rights Act 2015, protects consumers from damage due to *any* digital download whatsoever. Period. This applies, even the the download is free. All that matters is that the software is usually supplied with the product if not actually purchased. For example, you buy a computer with Windows installed. Windows is a key part of the computer. So, if you download an update and it blue screens your computer, Microsoft are liable for damages. Nothing in their "agreements" can prevent their liability.

The GDPR, essentially, means any data that is not actually essential for the service that is being provided, is yours, and they are not allowed to pass it on or deny you the service because you wont let them pass it on. It overrides anything to the contrary. It has effectively killed the ICANN Who Is database, that was mandating publishing your personal name and address to all and sundry.

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Get SumatraPDF. Foxit hasn't been good since... v5 or so?

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Foxit 5.1.4.0104 works fine. As do the older ones.

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Sumatra won't do what Foxit does. I use Foxit to create PDFs and to edit t hem.

What really ticks me off is when a company locks their data sheets so I can 't copy text from them. Neither Foxit nor Sumatra works for that. I go to web sites which will unlock the PDF for free. What are companies worried about, that I will actually *use* some of the data in the data sheets?

People have asked the guy writing Sumatra to make unlocking a feature and h e seems to not be interested. People will say it's not needed because you can do it with other "workflows"... whatever that means. I can also write to the hard drive with a sewing needle and a magnet. I like things that ma ke life easier.

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My solution to unlocking a document is to first print it to a file with Cute PDF and to modify the printed version.

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can't copy text from them. Neither Foxit nor Sumatra works for that. I g o to web sites which will unlock the PDF for free. What are companies worr ied about, that I will actually *use* some of the data in the data sheets?

nd he seems to not be interested. People will say it's not needed because you can do it with other "workflows"... whatever that means. I can also wr ite to the hard drive with a sewing needle and a magnet. I like things tha t make life easier.

I've never gotten a file with text when I do that. It ends up with the pag es being images I believe. Nothing can be selected other than the entire p age. That's true with every PDF printer I've had over the years.

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Try any2djvu.djvu.org--they have a free DJVU converter with pretty good OCR. I use it a lot with legal stuff that the other side likes to send as text-free PDFs. (Some stuff is covered by protective orders, of course, but at least I can get the unprotected documents in searchable form.)

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edit them.

I can't copy text from them. Neither Foxit nor Sumatra works for that. I go to web sites which will unlock the PDF for free. What are companies wo rried about, that I will actually *use* some of the data in the data sheets ?

and he seems to not be interested. People will say it's not needed becaus e you can do it with other "workflows"... whatever that means. I can also write to the hard drive with a sewing needle and a magnet. I like things t hat make life easier.

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pages being images I believe. Nothing can be selected other than the enti re page. That's true with every PDF printer I've had over the years.

Why would I want OCR? You seem to be trying to make this as difficult as p ossible. Running the PDF through a program that unlocks the restrictions i s quite sufficient and gives me a file that is just what I want. I actuall y prefer to use a web site for this. I'm a lot more comfortable with handl ing PDFs downloaded from the real world than I am running programs download ed from the real world.

When I've done a search for removing protections from PDF files there are a *lot* of programs that show up. Are there any reputable sources of FOSS f or that?

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moughahahaha. (Not.)

Why would I want to go tormenting you? You seem unhappy enough as it is.

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