Another court case headed to SCOTUS?...

Another court case headed to SCOTUS?...

...Jim Thompson

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| James E.Thompson                                 |    mens     | 
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"In its three-page order today, the court said its decision doesn't close off any measures the state could take to extend in-state tuition to Arizona high school graduates who don't have legal immigration documents.

"Other states have done so," Arizona Supreme Court Chief Justice Scott Bales wrote, noting laws in Colorado, California and New Mexico.

But the ruling did note, briefly, that a potential Arizona law could be subject to the Voter Protection Act, since voters approved the 2006 ballot measure."

John

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John Robertson

To put that in plain English... the Arizona State Legislature _could_ craft a law giving DACA-types the right to in-state tuition.

In plainer English... and hell may freeze over... this isn't Californica, or Colorado or New Mexico. ...Jim Thompson

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I am not a Christian, however I accept many of the teachings as good general wisdom:

29 But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, ?And who is my neighbor?? 30 In reply Jesus said: ?A man was going down from Jerusalem to J ericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. 31 A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. 32 So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. 33 But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. 34 He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the

man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him. 35 The next day he took out two denarii[c] and gave them to the innkeeper. ?Look after him,? he said, ?and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.?

36 ?Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man w ho fell into the hands of robbers?? 37 The expert in the law replied, ?The one who had mercy on him.? ??

Jesus told him, ?Go and do likewise.?

John

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John Robertson

Dangerous Communist nonsense. Fortunately many Americans ignore it.

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Tom Gardner

Not necessarily. Charity is alright if effective, a hand up rather than a h and out, and it must be voluntary. It is wrong for the government to take o ur money at gunpoint and give it to others.

If I steal from you, does it make it alright if I give much of the money to the poor ? How much of that loot should I give to exonerate myself ?

I am not completely heartless but I am a realist. You want the food, you fu ck ? You take the contraception or no food. you want the government to give you an abortion, fine. But on the second one you get a free tubal ligation . Don't want it ? Have the kid with no increase in benefits or pay out of p ocket all expenses involved, or have the Father pay if you know who he is a nd he can afford it. this would cut down the number of murders tax dollars would finance, and have an overall positive effect on society.

They should have taken the Norplant we offered. Oh wait, we don't do that. Why ? Where in the Bible does it say contraception is wrong ? "be fruitful and multiply" ? If you can't feed them and they starve to death that is pro bably not what "he" had in mind.

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jurb6006

hand out, and it must be voluntary. It is wrong for the government to take our money at gunpoint and give it to others.

If the government is voted in on the basis that they will collect money fro m taxpayers and spend it to benefit the population as a whole - which does include non-tax payers - it isn't wrong for them to collect the taxes and s pend them in the way that they promised.

to the poor ? How much of that loot should I give to exonerate myself?

Sadly for your argument, tax collection isn't theft - though it may feel li ke it to the people paying the taxes - and the exoneration is built into th e electoral process.

You've got a particular political opinion. If you want the country run on t he basis of that opinion, you latch onto or found a political party that re flects that opinion, and campaign for them until they win an election.

The proposition that you - personally - don't have to pay taxes isn't one t hat you can promote into an election-winning campaign.

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bill.sloman

hand out, and it must be voluntary. It is wrong for the government to take our money at gunpoint and give it to others.

The government doesn't steal, they tax. Look it up, you will find a lot wr itten about it.

to the poor ? How much of that loot should I give to exonerate myself ?

Unless you are a convicted felon, you have a say in how the government taxe s people including yourself. So obviously you are a willing participant. If you weren't you would have left the country long ago.

f*ck ? You take the contraception or no food. you want the government to gi ve you an abortion, fine. But on the second one you get a free tubal ligati on. Don't want it ? Have the kid with no increase in benefits or pay out of pocket all expenses involved, or have the Father pay if you know who he is and he can afford it. this would cut down the number of murders tax dollar s would finance, and have an overall positive effect on society.

How about if she continues to have kids and just turns them over to the sta te? That would seem to fit in with your idea of a nanny state in the liter al sense.

. Why ? Where in the Bible does it say contraception is wrong ? "be fruitfu l and multiply" ? If you can't feed them and they starve to death that is p robably not what "he" had in mind.

You seem to be an angry person. Of all the things going on in this country you are the most upset by things that you perceive as being paid for with your money (isn't it all?). But only things you personally disagree with. Hey, that's the way government works. We decide what to do and how to do it as a collective. Either you are in or you are out. If you don't want t o be part of it and aren't willing to work within the system to change what you don't like, just leave! Is there no other place on earth where you wo uld get a better deal?

Rick C.

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gnuarm.deletethisbit

rom taxpayers and spend it to benefit the population as a whole - which doe s include non-tax payers - it isn't wrong for them to collect the taxes and spend them in the way that they promised. "

Your opinion. Apply it you your country. I don't owe these n------s anythin g no matter what color they are. And that also means corporate welfare and politicians. It also means other countries.

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jurb6006

That money is for maintaining the infrastructure and needful government operations, not charity. Read the Constitution.

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jurb6006

What country are you talking about ? Certainly not the US. Have you ever tried to call your congressman ? have you seen tax rates and the destination of those monies on a ballot somewhere ? Do you even have any influence on corporate tax rates ?

Don't hand me that kidergarten dreamy bullshit about the "greatest country in the world" and "freedom". It is all bullshit and you know it. Want proof ? Get ready for a long post with about 100 links in it.

I was born in the morning but not this morning. the fact is there is more freedom in Russia than here, and the Chinese government is more responsive to the people than the US government is to ours. Want proof ? Don't, it'll shatter your illusion.

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jurb6006

from taxpayers and spend it to benefit the population as a whole - which d oes include non-tax payers - it isn't wrong for them to collect the taxes a nd spend them in the way that they promised. "

ing no matter what color they are. And that also means corporate welfare an d politicians. It also means other countries.

I don't know what n------s means, but you clearly do "owe" money to the gov ernment. Just try to not pay it for very long. But then it is likely you don't believe in our legal system if you are saying the things you are sayi ng. You have tossed out all respect for any form of government because it spends it's money on things you don't like. Whatever. Fortunately your op inion matters no more than anyone else's. We all get the same authority wh en it comes to elections. Unfortunately some people decide to delegate tha t authority to others by not giving much thought to the election or the imp lications. That's how Trump got elected, because he was novel, not because he was expected to accomplish much good.

Rick C.

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gnuarm.deletethisbit

I have. Did you???

GENERAL WELFARE CLAUSE. Article I, section 8 of the U. S. Constitution grants Congress the power to "lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts, and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common defense and general Welfare of the United States."

Do you see the term, "general welfare"??? I've actually seen one of the original copies.

Rick C.

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taxes people including yourself."

tried to call your congressman ? have you seen tax rates and the destinatio n of those monies on a ballot somewhere ? Do you even have any influence on corporate tax rates ?

If all else fails, I can call my Congressman back at election time. I don' t need a phone for that either.

y in the world" and "freedom". It is all bullshit and you know it. Want pro of ? Get ready for a long post with about 100 links in it.

No thanks. It is very unlikely you will link to anything worth reading muc h less anything that proves such a point. I didn't say anything like "grea test country in the world" and "freedom", I said you have the same say in h ow government runs as everyone else at election time. That is the single m ost powerful thing most people do. But they also squander it by voting the same way they elected senior class president in high school.

freedom in Russia than here, and the Chinese government is more responsive to the people than the US government is to ours. Want proof ? Don't, it'll shatter your illusion.

You heard me say so many things I didn't say. There is no way I can have a rational conversation with you when you are hearing voices in your head.

Rick C.

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gnuarm.deletethisbit

You haven't a clue what you're talking about.

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krw

Welfare in this case does not mean like food stamps. And it does not say welfare of the People, it says welfare of the united states. Not capitalised.

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jurb6006

Which is nothing. Why was Hillary Clinton a candidate ? The power of the DNC. Why wasn't Ron Paul years ago ? The power of the RNC.

Every "viable" candidate is screened for loyalty to oil, pharma, banks and Israel.

Put me on ignore, and enjoy your "life".

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jurb6006

Ignore everything that doesn't fit your illusion.

I quoted you on that point ? Funny, I don't recall that. Get it and let me see.

What, I can't make an independent comment, i. e. one that is not in direct response to one of yours ? You been hanging around with Slowman or something ?

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jurb6006

Ron Paul? Power? You're kiddin' right?

Oil is good for life. Drugs are (generally) good for life. Money is good (though "too big to fail" ought to). ...and Israel is a vibrant democracy in the middle of an ungodly mess.

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krw

Burning it as fuel turns it into a mixed blessing.

But the ones that get synthesised and sold are aimed at people who can pay a lot for them, rather than people who could pay a lot for them if they got healthy enough to earn more.

Money may be good, but the people who have a lot of it are rather too interested in getting more for themselves in the short term, rather than investing in projects that will make more money for everybody in the longer term.

With a government that seems to be more corrupt than most. And the mess in the area owes a lot to the variety of gods being taken seriously in the region.

There may only be one god, but he seems to look very different to the various factions being unkind to one another in the name of whatever it is that they are worshiping.

Ungodliness might constitute a step forward.

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