Analog scope fun

Playing with the Kikusui one last time before it makes room for the new Rigol. ~1 MHz square wave out of a Dallas/Maxim DS1077; looks like it might be slightly faster so I'll have to check to see if I wrote the correct bytes to the registers via SPI (datasheet sucks.)

1uS/div on the bottom and .5uS/div on top. Gibbs phenomena due to 3" ground lead no-likey (the chip makes really fast edges.)

All things must pass I guess...

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.5uS/div on top and .1uS/div on bottom, rather.

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bitrex

Kik's were OK, but they did the HV layout badly on some of them. Things arced over. I had to replace blown diodes and conformally coat the multiplier section.

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John Larkin

Cannot recall ever seeing a multiplier section that *wasn't* potted. Certainly with Tek & HP stuff anyway.

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Cursitor Doom

The Tek tube scopes weren't.

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Nor the Kiks that I owned.

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John Larkin

years ago. :)

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TTman

Hope its a 100mhz or more Rigol. You will 'see' much more with a higher bandwidth scope. We have a MDO3024 and can see stuff that the old TDS 60Mhz scopes don't show.

Cheers

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Martin Riddle

We seem to be at cross-purposes here, John. I thought you meant C-W multipliers for the plate voltage. I'll get me coat.

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Cursitor Doom

It was definitely worth the IIRC $50 I paid for it around 8 years ago; probably the most bang-for-the-buck I ever got out of a piece of test equipment

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bitrex

It has a lot of nice features for what I guess was a "budget"-minded bench o-scope circa 1982. 60Mhz, 2 channel (actually 3 inputs but the third has a fixed sweep), can route the A channel into the B channel so you can display the same waveform at different divisions like the pic, magnification, variable slope, level, and delay time trigger holdoff controls, some analog TV-related features that I don't really understand, and a "z axis" input and freq counter output on the back.

It's very bulky and heavy.

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bitrex

Yup, the DS1102E. Got it on clearance thanks to George H; $299, bargain!

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bitrex

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** It's a COS5060 - right ?

For a scope with a 6 inch diagonal screen, it is compact and light at only 7kgs. The PDA type CRT has an internal graticule and uses a huge 12kV of acceleration.

Scopes like this are intuitive to use and never give wrong or misleading images of what the input signal consists of or is doing - unlike the cheap, sampling Rigol toy.

Compare the images with it's input linked to the Rigol's and see how often they are very different.

I know which one you can trust.

.... Phil

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Phil Allison

I took my old 422 and hooked it up to a Magnavox T991. The yoke was almost purely resistive in the vertical. I put that sawtooth into the vertical swe ep. The horizontal not so much, but the scope provided the sweep. Then I pi cked off the video from one of the outputs through a cap, and fed it to the Z axis input. The scope acted as a TV. People were amazed actually, even t hose not so technically inclined.

I really did have some fun when I had my shop.

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jurb6006

I heard some story a while ago that you could buy a 50Mhz Rigol (can't recall the model number) for super-cheap money and with just a few tweaks convert it into a 100Mhz scope. So essentially the 50Mhz Rigol was a crippled version of the 100Mhz one. Perhaps someone here can tell me if that was an urban myth or not.

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Cursitor Doom

Nope, all true:

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bitrex

Yup, with the Z axis input it could be rigged up to play Asteroids like the vid in this link, but without all the "ghost" traces.

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bitrex

The Kik has a somewhat interesting PSU design, using complementary pairs for the +12/-12 rails, with a PNP in the +12 and an NPN in the -12. Maybe to ensure those rails come up synchronized?

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bitrex

Oops here's the link

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bitrex

There are color LCD replacements for some HP equipment, such as the HP8568A Spectrum Analyzer

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and the HP8566A

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I'm seriously considering to get one for my 8566A to get rid of the heavy CRT and heat generation.

Digitizing the low frequency waveforms used in SA is easy. But I don't expect to see a LCD replacement for the channel electron multiplier used in the TEK

7104 or 2467.
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Steve Wilson

Just for fun, here is the installation instructions for the color LCD replacement for the 8566/8568:

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This explains how they get different color traces by hijacking an unused control. But I'd be happier if they allowed a USB interface instead of the old HPIB one.

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Steve Wilson

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