Achieving 98% efficiency in a boost converter

Further update, nearly finished. Added 2-channel SMU connections for quick data. Opinions please.

I've practically given up on commercial inductors, can't seem to get Qs over 25 to 40 at 300kHz. :-( So I wound my own, 100uH, 20 turns of #18 wire on an RM8 core, gapped for A_L = 250. Yeah, Q = 125.

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Winfield Hill
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Sure. I'd meant to point out that a) components for super-high efficiency are a lot harder to come by at the 20mW power level, and that is partly because b) it's an uncommon requirement: you don't often throw 10x$ in parts to harvest an extra x$ worth of power. Maybe in spacecraft. On Earth you'd just use a 2% larger solar cell.

IOW, I suspect it's a lot easier, with COTS components, to get 98% efficiency in a 20W converter than at the 20mW level.

Fun project, as usual. Thanks Win.

Cheers, James Arthur

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dagmargoodboat

The design has been updated and is ready to order.

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Here's what my document says, achieving a 98% result: One test condition: 600mV input from a solar cell, 2.4V out at 10mA load = 24mW. Boost converter operation at 250kHz. Critical for success: an RM8 inductor, low-loss winding, measured DCR 0.018 Ω, calculated loss 0.03mW, and AC loss 1.3 Ω, 0.06mW. Best estimated CMOS switch, TS3A24159 powered from Vcc = 3.3V. Ron 0.10 Ω, loss 0.16mW. Calculated switch loss, switching 2.4V with Coss=150pF, 0.21mW.

Continuous total loss 0.46mW = 2% of 24mW (not counting 0.18mW in sense resistors).

I had only one email about a free PCB, but with no followup to my answer. My offer still stands.

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Winfield Hill

My RIS-767 testbed is not meant to be a full-blown boost converter, instead it's meant to evaluate inductors and synchronous switches, under various conditions, by independently setting the switching frequency, the PWM duty cycle, and the load current. Fix two parameters and step a third, plot data points.

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Winfield Hill

The enigma of the long delay to receive your pcb is cleared up at last. By process of elimination the one email that you received belongs to me. Another email was just sent to you with my address in it.

Thank you,

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Don Kuenz

OK, Don, great, you'll get two boards to play with. The file on DropBox has changes (errors fixed), so over-write the old one.

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Winfield Hill

Assembly parts location images added.

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Winfield Hill

Folder includes assembly info:

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My order is going in shortly; I need to know how many boards I'll be shipping, so place your (free) orders.

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Winfield Hill

I will take one, if you haven't placed the order yet. I'll email my address.

What's the prize for best efficiency? Do I get shamed if I can't achieve 95%?

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sea moss

OK, two boards for you.

95%, you're supposed to aim for 98%!
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Winfield Hill

The design has been further updated, more capability, now with 18 flip-chip daughterboards. There's a new 11-page document describing the project, and with five possible simplified build schematics.

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I'll be placing PCB orders shortly.

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Winfield Hill

"That file isn?t here anymore Someone might?ve deleted the file or disabled the link"

:-(

That is a very good achievement!

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Joerg

Model and calculations need to be more thorough. This write-up seems to be a comprehensive analysis. I didn't read the whole thing:

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Thanks, I hadn't seen that writeup, looks interesting. You're right, I haven't given details of my 98% calcs in my documents, because I'm concentrating on the PCB.

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Winfield Hill

Hmm. See my post this morning, it should work.

Well, the inductor is an achievement, the rest will be calculation / speculation until the testbed arrives.

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Winfield Hill

Thanks, that link works. It hadn't shown up in my news server yet before walking the dogs.

If the MPPT is a required part of the game you'd have to add in the Arduino power consumption. Maybe use a MSP430 instead? Those can be operated on small drops of power.

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Joerg

Of course. But my rule is that none of the controller power consumption counts. Why? We assume with effort you could drive that as far down as you want, but that's not the point. The point is to achieve very efficient power conversion, period. Any wild control scheme you dream up is OK.

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Winfield Hill

Scaling assumptions that approach an order of magnitude are often troublesome. Two orders of magnitude will require more than just serious thought.

RL

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legg

Yes, right. And also bench experimenting. Hence my offer for free RIS-767 boards.

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Winfield Hill

Is there a recommended 600mV source, or are input filter components considered adequate impedance stabilization?

RL

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legg

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