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On Wed, 13 May 2009 03:16:52 +0000, Geoffrey wrote:

DOS/Windows. IOW, "Windows is intuitive; it's just like the previous
versions of Windows I used; but Linux is different".

You have no choice but to dedicate the whole machine to a single
program. That seriously limits what you can do and how usable it is.
What happens when you're using a program and discover that you need to
look up some information on the Internet or in a PDF? You have to quit the
program, start another program to get the information, write it down on
paper, then re-start the original program.
A single-tasking OS is like a motor car with a top speed of 10mph which
breaks down every 10 miles and needs a full service once a week: when it
was all that was available, it was acceptable; nowadays it isn't.
DOS/Windows. IOW, "Windows is intuitive; it's just like the previous
versions of Windows I used; but Linux is different".
You have no choice but to dedicate the whole machine to a single
program. That seriously limits what you can do and how usable it is.
What happens when you're using a program and discover that you need to
look up some information on the Internet or in a PDF? You have to quit the
program, start another program to get the information, write it down on
paper, then re-start the original program.
A single-tasking OS is like a motor car with a top speed of 10mph which
breaks down every 10 miles and needs a full service once a week: when it
was all that was available, it was acceptable; nowadays it isn't.
wrote:

That bug ridden gunk? Several *nix distros are reasonably user
friendly.

I use Linux and XP. Using virtualization to get both at the same on
my experimental machine. Multiple DOS versions come with it.

Until i am satisfied with the virtual "boxes" i am using GRUB to
switch on the production machine.

My Linux environments have no problem with NTFS, it is hardly even a
problem now.

Then try FreeDOS. Very similar to DRDOS 6.

Open office is free, and has a windows version. Call it about 90% of
MS office, but with a potentially better database.

That bug ridden gunk? Several *nix distros are reasonably user
friendly.
I use Linux and XP. Using virtualization to get both at the same on
my experimental machine. Multiple DOS versions come with it.
Until i am satisfied with the virtual "boxes" i am using GRUB to
switch on the production machine.
My Linux environments have no problem with NTFS, it is hardly even a
problem now.
Then try FreeDOS. Very similar to DRDOS 6.
Open office is free, and has a windows version. Call it about 90% of
MS office, but with a potentially better database.
Geoffrey wrote:

[...]
> I would really like to see DOS
> for a modern machine.
> It is the best for science because
> you can dedicate the whole machine
> to but a single program.
>
> I agree that Microsoft is a bully.
Then you might be interested in this software:
Ubuntu Linux is free & friendly. (Much friendlier than Fedora.)
<http://www.ubuntu.net/>
WINE is free, open source, & will let you run many Windows programs
under Linux: <http://www.winehq.org/>
FreeBASIC is free, open-source BASIC compiler, & runs under Linux,
Windows & DOS. <http://www.freebasic.net/>
FreeDOS is a free clone of MSDOS.
<http://www.freedos.org/>

GRUB (also free) will let you boot multiple OSes on the same box.
Hope you find this useful.
--
W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
[...]
> I would really like to see DOS
> for a modern machine.
> It is the best for science because
> you can dedicate the whole machine
> to but a single program.
>
> I agree that Microsoft is a bully.
Then you might be interested in this software:
Ubuntu Linux is free & friendly. (Much friendlier than Fedora.)
<http://www.ubuntu.net/>
WINE is free, open source, & will let you run many Windows programs
under Linux: <http://www.winehq.org/>
FreeBASIC is free, open-source BASIC compiler, & runs under Linux,
Windows & DOS. <http://www.freebasic.net/>
FreeDOS is a free clone of MSDOS.
<http://www.freedos.org/>
GRUB (also free) will let you boot multiple OSes on the same box.
Hope you find this useful.
--
W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
I do not have or want excel.
Instead I bought a general purpose
compiler that makes anything
I am able to make and not just that excel thing.
excel is a special purpose thing for the rich.
Which I am not.
I need tools that are essentially unlimited like the human mind itself.
Now if only I could get the detailed register maps
and memory maps and microcode's for all my hardware.
That's the real problem today.
Programming various hardware add ons any way you want to.
The only subjective thing I practice or art or
whatever is scientific or mathematical in nature
and not a power thing to control people.
Excel is a power thing used to control people
and while robbing them blind. It is not a
general purpose kind of programming.
I need no human laws to govern my personal life.
That's how I see the excel program.
Anyone with a PC and the right OS can use my programs
and not just excel peoples.
I really really like the concept of no
power above the individual level.
No gods or devils allowed.
Things like excel are the devil for myself.
You need excel to do excel.
Or so i understand.
With this compiler All i need is notepad
and an understanding of the code to write
whatever comes to mind.
And it will or should run on any Windows XP/Vista
32 bit or 64 bit PC type machine as an EXE file.
The computer world is full of cowards
not willing to run other peoples software.
Are one of those too ??
Just ask me at my email address and i will
send you as an attachment my own programs for you to
play with.
Freedom is the name of the game in the
land of the free and home of the brave.
Which i see too little of today.
Too many religions/arts/subjectivity and too little
science/Freedom/object-tivity.
Thats why the terror people hate us.
We force our will upon them within their own
homelands. They are simply reciprocating the favors
in the only way they know how.
So much for excel.
Kind Regards;
geoff

Instead I bought a general purpose
compiler that makes anything
I am able to make and not just that excel thing.
excel is a special purpose thing for the rich.
Which I am not.
I need tools that are essentially unlimited like the human mind itself.
Now if only I could get the detailed register maps
and memory maps and microcode's for all my hardware.
That's the real problem today.
Programming various hardware add ons any way you want to.
The only subjective thing I practice or art or
whatever is scientific or mathematical in nature
and not a power thing to control people.
Excel is a power thing used to control people
and while robbing them blind. It is not a
general purpose kind of programming.
I need no human laws to govern my personal life.
That's how I see the excel program.
Anyone with a PC and the right OS can use my programs
and not just excel peoples.
I really really like the concept of no
power above the individual level.
No gods or devils allowed.
Things like excel are the devil for myself.
You need excel to do excel.
Or so i understand.
With this compiler All i need is notepad
and an understanding of the code to write
whatever comes to mind.
And it will or should run on any Windows XP/Vista
32 bit or 64 bit PC type machine as an EXE file.
The computer world is full of cowards
not willing to run other peoples software.
Are one of those too ??
Just ask me at my email address and i will
send you as an attachment my own programs for you to
play with.
Freedom is the name of the game in the
land of the free and home of the brave.
Which i see too little of today.
Too many religions/arts/subjectivity and too little
science/Freedom/object-tivity.
Thats why the terror people hate us.
We force our will upon them within their own
homelands. They are simply reciprocating the favors
in the only way they know how.
So much for excel.
Kind Regards;
geoff
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> machine the other day and still
> had a devil of a time making it work.
>
> I think Id have to spend several years dedicated
> to Fedora before Id ever like it.
>
> Windows however much you do not like it
> is by far the best public user friendly OS out there.