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On Wed, 13 May 2009 03:16:52 +0000, Geoffrey wrote:
You're overlooking the fact that you've already dedicated several years to
DOS/Windows. IOW, "Windows is intuitive; it's just like the previous
versions of Windows I used; but Linux is different".
You have no choice but to dedicate the whole machine to a single
program. That seriously limits what you can do and how usable it is.
What happens when you're using a program and discover that you need to
look up some information on the Internet or in a PDF? You have to quit the
program, start another program to get the information, write it down on
paper, then re-start the original program.
A single-tasking OS is like a motor car with a top speed of 10mph which
breaks down every 10 miles and needs a full service once a week: when it
was all that was available, it was acceptable; nowadays it isn't.
wrote:
That bug ridden gunk? Several *nix distros are reasonably user
friendly.
I use Linux and XP. Using virtualization to get both at the same on
my experimental machine. Multiple DOS versions come with it.
Until i am satisfied with the virtual "boxes" i am using GRUB to
switch on the production machine.
My Linux environments have no problem with NTFS, it is hardly even a
problem now.
Then try FreeDOS. Very similar to DRDOS 6.
Open office is free, and has a windows version. Call it about 90% of
MS office, but with a potentially better database.
Geoffrey wrote:
Then you might be interested in this software:
Ubuntu Linux is free & friendly. (Much friendlier than Fedora.)
WINE is free, open source, & will let you run many Windows programs
FreeBASIC is free, open-source BASIC compiler, & runs under Linux,
FreeDOS is a free clone of MSDOS.
GRUB (also free) will let you boot multiple OSes on the same box.
Hope you find this useful.
--
W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
I do not have or want excel.
Instead I bought a general purpose
compiler that makes anything
I am able to make and not just that excel thing.
excel is a special purpose thing for the rich.
Which I am not.
I need tools that are essentially unlimited like the human mind itself.
Now if only I could get the detailed register maps
and memory maps and microcode's for all my hardware.
That's the real problem today.
Programming various hardware add ons any way you want to.
The only subjective thing I practice or art or
whatever is scientific or mathematical in nature
and not a power thing to control people.
Excel is a power thing used to control people
and while robbing them blind. It is not a
general purpose kind of programming.
I need no human laws to govern my personal life.
That's how I see the excel program.
Anyone with a PC and the right OS can use my programs
and not just excel peoples.
I really really like the concept of no
power above the individual level.
No gods or devils allowed.
Things like excel are the devil for myself.
You need excel to do excel.
Or so i understand.
With this compiler All i need is notepad
and an understanding of the code to write
whatever comes to mind.
And it will or should run on any Windows XP/Vista
32 bit or 64 bit PC type machine as an EXE file.
The computer world is full of cowards
not willing to run other peoples software.
Are one of those too ??
Just ask me at my email address and i will
send you as an attachment my own programs for you to
play with.
Freedom is the name of the game in the
land of the free and home of the brave.
Which i see too little of today.
Too many religions/arts/subjectivity and too little
science/Freedom/object-tivity.
Thats why the terror people hate us.
We force our will upon them within their own
homelands. They are simply reciprocating the favors
in the only way they know how.
So much for excel.
Kind Regards;
geoff
Does it come complete with tinfoil hat?
Jim
You're overlooking the fact that you've already dedicated several years to
DOS/Windows. IOW, "Windows is intuitive; it's just like the previous
versions of Windows I used; but Linux is different".
> I would really like to see DOS
> for a modern machine.
> It is the best for science because
> you can dedicate the whole machine
> to but a single program.
> for a modern machine.
> It is the best for science because
> you can dedicate the whole machine
> to but a single program.
You have no choice but to dedicate the whole machine to a single
program. That seriously limits what you can do and how usable it is.
What happens when you're using a program and discover that you need to
look up some information on the Internet or in a PDF? You have to quit the
program, start another program to get the information, write it down on
paper, then re-start the original program.
A single-tasking OS is like a motor car with a top speed of 10mph which
breaks down every 10 miles and needs a full service once a week: when it
was all that was available, it was acceptable; nowadays it isn't.
wrote:
>LOL I just installed Fedora 10 onto my
>machine the other day and still
>had a devil of a time making it work.
>I think Id have to spend several years dedicated
>to Fedora before Id ever like it.
>Windows however much you do not like it
>is by far the best public user friendly OS out there.
>machine the other day and still
>had a devil of a time making it work.
>I think Id have to spend several years dedicated
>to Fedora before Id ever like it.
>Windows however much you do not like it
>is by far the best public user friendly OS out there.
That bug ridden gunk? Several *nix distros are reasonably user
friendly.
>I use both DOS and Windows.
>Hide One partition and show the other.
>Thats how I boot from one to the other.
>Hide One partition and show the other.
>Thats how I boot from one to the other.
I use Linux and XP. Using virtualization to get both at the same on
my experimental machine. Multiple DOS versions come with it.
>No special boot loaders or anything.
Until i am satisfied with the virtual "boxes" i am using GRUB to
switch on the production machine.
>Just patition magic 8 to swap partitions
>like DOS622 and Win98SE/or Win XP.
>Win VISTA requires NTFS so I cant share
>VIsta With Anything but XP.
>like DOS622 and Win98SE/or Win XP.
>Win VISTA requires NTFS so I cant share
>VIsta With Anything but XP.
My Linux environments have no problem with NTFS, it is hardly even a
problem now.
>I would really like to see DOS
>for a modern machine.
>It is the best for science because
>you can dedicate the whole machine
>to but a single program.
>for a modern machine.
>It is the best for science because
>you can dedicate the whole machine
>to but a single program.
Then try FreeDOS. Very similar to DRDOS 6.
>I agree that Microsoft is a bully.
>BUt consider National Security before you blame
>only Microsoft. If William Gates did not play up to
>national security the USA would never let him be a billionaire in the =
first place.
>BUt consider National Security before you blame
>only Microsoft. If William Gates did not play up to
>national security the USA would never let him be a billionaire in the =
>TaTa;
>geoff
>geoff
>> Baron wrote:
>>> Geoffrey wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> LOL what you do not understand is that
>>>> at the moment I have no need of excel.
>>>> And neither do you to run my program if on a
>>>> PC with Win xp or vista.
>>>> But then Im not here to force anything on anyone so.
>>>> Either you want to play with the program or not.
>>>> Have a good day.
>>>> TaTa
>>>> geoff
>>>=20
>>>> LOL what you do not understand is that
>>>> at the moment I have no need of excel.
>>>> And neither do you to run my program if on a
>>>> PC with Win xp or vista.
>>>> But then Im not here to force anything on anyone so.
>>>> Either you want to play with the program or not.
>>>> Have a good day.
>>>> TaTa
>>>> geoff
Open office is free, and has a windows version. Call it about 90% of
MS office, but with a potentially better database.
>>>=20
>>> The point being "I don't run any M$ crapware" ! Open Office is cross
>>> platform.=20
>>> The point being "I don't run any M$ crapware" ! Open Office is cross
>>> platform.=20
>>=20
>> I do not have or want Windows.
>> Instead I bought a general purpose
>> operating system that makes anything
>> I am able to make and not just that Microsoft thing.
>> Windows is a special purpose thing for the rich.
>> Which I am not.
>> I need tools that are essentially unlimited like the human mind =
itself.
>> I do not have or want Windows.
>> Instead I bought a general purpose
>> operating system that makes anything
>> I am able to make and not just that Microsoft thing.
>> Windows is a special purpose thing for the rich.
>> Which I am not.
>> I need tools that are essentially unlimited like the human mind =
>> Now if only I could get the detailed banking details and passwords and=
=20
>> access codes for all my enemies.
>> That's the real problem today.
>> Programming various hardware add ons any way you want to.
>> The only subjective thing I practice or art or
>> whatever is scientific or mathematical in nature
>> and not a power thing to control people.
>> Windows is a power thing used to control people
>> and while robbing them blind. It is not a
>> general purpose kind of programming.
>> I need no human laws to govern my personal life.
>> That's how I see the Windows program.
>> Anyone with a PC and the right OS should be able to use your programs
>> and not just Windows peoples.
>> I really really like the concept of no
>> power above the individual level.
>> No gods or devils allowed.
>> Things like Windows are the devil for myself.
>> You need Windows to do Windows.
>> Or so i understand.
>> With this compiler All i need is notepad
>> and an understanding of the code to write
>> whatever comes to mind.
>> And it should run on any 32 bit or 64 bit PC type machine as an=20
>> executable binary, interpreted shell script or 4GL file.
>>=20
>> The computer world is full of cowards
>> not willing to run other peoples OS's.
>>=20
>> Are you one of those too ??
>>=20
>> --
>> ;-) Couldn't help it.
>> CTH
>> That's the real problem today.
>> Programming various hardware add ons any way you want to.
>> The only subjective thing I practice or art or
>> whatever is scientific or mathematical in nature
>> and not a power thing to control people.
>> Windows is a power thing used to control people
>> and while robbing them blind. It is not a
>> general purpose kind of programming.
>> I need no human laws to govern my personal life.
>> That's how I see the Windows program.
>> Anyone with a PC and the right OS should be able to use your programs
>> and not just Windows peoples.
>> I really really like the concept of no
>> power above the individual level.
>> No gods or devils allowed.
>> Things like Windows are the devil for myself.
>> You need Windows to do Windows.
>> Or so i understand.
>> With this compiler All i need is notepad
>> and an understanding of the code to write
>> whatever comes to mind.
>> And it should run on any 32 bit or 64 bit PC type machine as an=20
>> executable binary, interpreted shell script or 4GL file.
>>=20
>> The computer world is full of cowards
>> not willing to run other peoples OS's.
>>=20
>> Are you one of those too ??
>>=20
>> --
>> ;-) Couldn't help it.
>> CTH
Geoffrey wrote:
> LOL I just installed Fedora 10 onto my
> machine the other day and still
> had a devil of a time making it work.
>
> I think Id have to spend several years dedicated
> to Fedora before Id ever like it.
>
> Windows however much you do not like it
> is by far the best public user friendly OS out there.
[...]
> machine the other day and still
> had a devil of a time making it work.
>
> I think Id have to spend several years dedicated
> to Fedora before Id ever like it.
>
> Windows however much you do not like it
> is by far the best public user friendly OS out there.
> I would really like to see DOS
> for a modern machine.
> It is the best for science because
> you can dedicate the whole machine
> to but a single program.
>
> I agree that Microsoft is a bully.
> for a modern machine.
> It is the best for science because
> you can dedicate the whole machine
> to but a single program.
>
> I agree that Microsoft is a bully.
Then you might be interested in this software:
Ubuntu Linux is free & friendly. (Much friendlier than Fedora.)
<http://www.ubuntu.net/>
WINE is free, open source, & will let you run many Windows programs
under Linux: <http://www.winehq.org/>
FreeBASIC is free, open-source BASIC compiler, & runs under Linux,
Windows & DOS. <http://www.freebasic.net/>
FreeDOS is a free clone of MSDOS.
<http://www.freedos.org/>
> I use both DOS and Windows.
> Hide One partition and show the other.
> Thats how I boot from one to the other.
>
> No special boot loaders or anything.
>
> Just patition magic 8 to swap partitions
> like DOS622 and Win98SE/or Win XP.
> Hide One partition and show the other.
> Thats how I boot from one to the other.
>
> No special boot loaders or anything.
>
> Just patition magic 8 to swap partitions
> like DOS622 and Win98SE/or Win XP.
GRUB (also free) will let you boot multiple OSes on the same box.
Hope you find this useful.
--
W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
I do not have or want excel.
Instead I bought a general purpose
compiler that makes anything
I am able to make and not just that excel thing.
excel is a special purpose thing for the rich.
Which I am not.
I need tools that are essentially unlimited like the human mind itself.
Now if only I could get the detailed register maps
and memory maps and microcode's for all my hardware.
That's the real problem today.
Programming various hardware add ons any way you want to.
The only subjective thing I practice or art or
whatever is scientific or mathematical in nature
and not a power thing to control people.
Excel is a power thing used to control people
and while robbing them blind. It is not a
general purpose kind of programming.
I need no human laws to govern my personal life.
That's how I see the excel program.
Anyone with a PC and the right OS can use my programs
and not just excel peoples.
I really really like the concept of no
power above the individual level.
No gods or devils allowed.
Things like excel are the devil for myself.
You need excel to do excel.
Or so i understand.
With this compiler All i need is notepad
and an understanding of the code to write
whatever comes to mind.
And it will or should run on any Windows XP/Vista
32 bit or 64 bit PC type machine as an EXE file.
The computer world is full of cowards
not willing to run other peoples software.
Are one of those too ??
Just ask me at my email address and i will
send you as an attachment my own programs for you to
play with.
Freedom is the name of the game in the
land of the free and home of the brave.
Which i see too little of today.
Too many religions/arts/subjectivity and too little
science/Freedom/object-tivity.
Thats why the terror people hate us.
We force our will upon them within their own
homelands. They are simply reciprocating the favors
in the only way they know how.
So much for excel.
Kind Regards;
geoff
> wrote:
>
>
>>Hello All Good Technical Folks;
>>For you Electronic hobbyist.
>>I have compiled software which should run on
>>Win Xp or Vista as a 32 bit program which
>>calculates values of C and R for the following
>>type of filter:
>>ONLY Active Butterworth
>>N=8
>>Gain = x1
>>Q = 1/SQR(2)
>>Stages = 4
>>LOW PASS for Anti Alize seismic purposes
>>Choose your own component values
>>or let the program choose the component values
>>for you.
>>I will email to you or anyone as
>>a self extracting RAR file just
>>send me a personal email to
>>gmvoeth@hotmail.com and I request
>>I send you this Self Extracting EXE file as an attachment.
>>Contains three files .BAS .BMP .EXE
>>which after entering data will generate
>>six results being STAGE1.bmp Stage2.bmp
>>Stage3.bmp Stage4.bmp Summary.bmp Summary.TXT
>>It is possible to get erroneous results
>>but that will be evident by resistor values
>>of zero or much greater than expected.
>>Read the included PowerBasic source file
>>prior to use.
>>No obligation or charges Since I do this
>>only for fun.
>>No spyware or malware or anything like that
>>will originate from me.
>>I do not live for anything but electronics/science/technology.
>>This program is only for the experienced
>>kit/project builder.
>>Counter intelligence operatives requested not to apply.
>>For thou art the enemy forever and forever.
>>TaTa;
>>geoff
>>For you Electronic hobbyist.
>>I have compiled software which should run on
>>Win Xp or Vista as a 32 bit program which
>>calculates values of C and R for the following
>>type of filter:
>>ONLY Active Butterworth
>>N=8
>>Gain = x1
>>Q = 1/SQR(2)
>>Stages = 4
>>LOW PASS for Anti Alize seismic purposes
>>Choose your own component values
>>or let the program choose the component values
>>for you.
>>I will email to you or anyone as
>>a self extracting RAR file just
>>send me a personal email to
>>gmvoeth@hotmail.com and I request
>>I send you this Self Extracting EXE file as an attachment.
>>Contains three files .BAS .BMP .EXE
>>which after entering data will generate
>>six results being STAGE1.bmp Stage2.bmp
>>Stage3.bmp Stage4.bmp Summary.bmp Summary.TXT
>>It is possible to get erroneous results
>>but that will be evident by resistor values
>>of zero or much greater than expected.
>>Read the included PowerBasic source file
>>prior to use.
>>No obligation or charges Since I do this
>>only for fun.
>>No spyware or malware or anything like that
>>will originate from me.
>>I do not live for anything but electronics/science/technology.
>>This program is only for the experienced
>>kit/project builder.
>>Counter intelligence operatives requested not to apply.
>>For thou art the enemy forever and forever.
>>TaTa;
>>geoff
>
>
> Why don't you just make an excel spreadsheet that does it? That way,
> when you come up with new filters, you can add them in the form of a new
> sheet in the workbook.
>
> Why don't you just make an excel spreadsheet that does it? That way,
> when you come up with new filters, you can add them in the form of a new
> sheet in the workbook.
Does it come complete with tinfoil hat?
Jim
> Hello All Good Technical Folks;
> For you Electronic hobbyist.
> For you Electronic hobbyist.
> I do not live for anything but electronics/science/technology.
> This program is only for the experienced
> kit/project builder.
> Counter intelligence operatives requested not to apply.
> For thou art the enemy forever and forever.
> TaTa;
> geoff
> This program is only for the experienced
> kit/project builder.
> Counter intelligence operatives requested not to apply.
> For thou art the enemy forever and forever.
> TaTa;
> geoff
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> machine the other day and still
> had a devil of a time making it work.
>
> I think Id have to spend several years dedicated
> to Fedora before Id ever like it.
>
> Windows however much you do not like it
> is by far the best public user friendly OS out there.