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Posted by OBones on June 9, 2009, 4:47 pm
Hello,

I'm currently planning the conversion of an AT computer power supply
that I have lying around into a base supply for my hobbyist electronics
projects .
I know that there is a reason a lab supply costs that much, but for the
use I'm planning, a computer supply will be enough.
However, I would like to protect it against overload as I have no idea
if the supply in itself is fitted with such circuit.
I know I can use a fuse, or a PPTC but this type of circuit does not
give me any indication that it is about to shutdown the power.
I have in mind an old model train transformer that had a red light that
progressively lights up as one approaches overload up until it is fully
on and the supply to the system is shutdown
I would thus like to reproduce this kind of behavior but I must admit
that I'm a bit lost as to what starting point I could use.
What resources would you recommend?
Are there any base circuits that I can modify easily to add an indicator
light?

Thanks for your help
OBones

Posted by Baron on June 9, 2009, 5:48 pm
OBones wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm currently planning the conversion of an AT computer power supply
> that I have lying around into a base supply for my hobbyist
> electronics projects .
> I know that there is a reason a lab supply costs that much, but for
> the use I'm planning, a computer supply will be enough.
> However, I would like to protect it against overload as I have no idea
> if the supply in itself is fitted with such circuit.
> I know I can use a fuse, or a PPTC but this type of circuit does not
> give me any indication that it is about to shutdown the power.
> I have in mind an old model train transformer that had a red light
> that progressively lights up as one approaches overload up until it is
> fully on and the supply to the system is shutdown
> I would thus like to reproduce this kind of behavior but I must admit
> that I'm a bit lost as to what starting point I could use.
> What resources would you recommend?
> Are there any base circuits that I can modify easily to add an
> indicator light?
>
> Thanks for your help
> OBones

As far as I am aware AT PSU don't have any SC protection but ATX PSU
do !

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

Posted by Phil Allison on June 9, 2009, 8:46 pm

"OBones"
> I'm currently planning the conversion of an AT computer power supply that
> I have lying around into a base supply for my hobbyist electronics
> projects .
> I know that there is a reason a lab supply costs that much, but for the
> use I'm planning, a computer supply will be enough.
> However, I would like to protect it against overload as I have no idea if
> the supply in itself is fitted with such circuit.
> I know I can use a fuse, or a PPTC but this type of circuit does not give
> me any indication that it is about to shutdown the power.
> I have in mind an old model train transformer that had a red light that
> progressively lights up as one approaches overload up until it is fully on
> and the supply to the system is shutdown


** The supply has a lamp ( ie a 12 volt, 21 watt car brake lamp ) in series
with the output.


> I would thus like to reproduce this kind of behavior but I must admit that
> I'm a bit lost as to what starting point I could use.

** Why not start with a lamp or two ?

6 volt for the 5 volt rail and 12 volt for them.


..... Phil



Posted by OBones on June 10, 2009, 1:54 am
Phil Allison wrote:

>> I would thus like to reproduce this kind of behavior but I must admit that
>> I'm a bit lost as to what starting point I could use.
>
> ** Why not start with a lamp or two ?
>
> 6 volt for the 5 volt rail and 12 volt for them.

Wouldn't the voltage drop modify the output voltage even for low currents?
I mean, the point is indeed to lower the voltage when there is a lot of
current going through, even to the point that there is not enough
voltage anymore for the circuit, but what about normal operating conditions?

Posted by Electronworks.co.uk on June 10, 2009, 4:18 am
Try this:
http://datasheets.maxim-ic.com/en/ds/MAX4172.pdf

This even gives you an output current. You may have to amplify it depending
on the light indicator you choose.

Regards

--
Bill Naylor
www.electronworks.co.uk
Electronic Kits for Education and Fun


> Phil Allison wrote:
>>> I would thus like to reproduce this kind of behavior but I must admit
>>> that I'm a bit lost as to what starting point I could use.
>> ** Why not start with a lamp or two ?
>> 6 volt for the 5 volt rail and 12 volt for them.
> Wouldn't the voltage drop modify the output voltage even for low currents?
> I mean, the point is indeed to lower the voltage when there is a lot of
> current going through, even to the point that there is not enough voltage
> anymore for the circuit, but what about normal operating conditions?



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