4 grueling hours job hunting

My daughter, 3 yrs out of college, had a great/fun job, then the company merged, she lost her boss, bonuses dropped, micro management, new people, So, she decided to go back to college and become an orthodontist. She's taking some needed classes to get in to dental college. Summer term she only has one class, so she decided to get a job. She called me Monday afternoon sounding frustrated, but, she was really bragging. "I spent all morning looking for a job, everywhere I went they said you need to fill out an online application, I said, just let me talk to a manager" By noon she had a job, starting work early in the morning which was her main criteria. She's also shadowing an oral surgeon as pre-dental prep. The 24 yr old young lady has a huge dose of self confidence. Another story from the week before.

The other day she had to set a counselor straight, the counselor insisted she needed to take a Calculus class, she said she took the class in high school and that it fulfills the requirement. "Nope" the counselor persisted, my daughter said, show me on paper where it says that. The counselor after sometime found a section and showed it to my daughter, my daughter read it and concluded, it says I don't have to retake the class. After some back and forth, the frustrated counselor went a got a more senior counselor. She came in and started in on my daughter in a bit of rude way, showing her that she was correct, my daughter said don't tell me, I know I'm correct, tell (the other counselor). So, she does not need to retake the class. She's not happy she had show up her counselor and piss off another that didn't want to be bothered with helping the other counselor. But if they set rules, they should understand and abide by them.

Just proud of my daughter :-)

She takes after her mother, nothing or nobody going to stop her!

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She was smart to not major in sociology or ethnic studies or marine biology. Teeth are important and millions of people have them.

The Brat is 2/3 into her MBA, so she can run a company; maybe I'll let her run mine, as long as she promises not to fire me. Girls are great.

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Her first major was Plant Biology with a minor in Agri business. Looks like her timing is bad so won't be able to test for dental until next go around, She said I'll just get a Masters while waiting, it'll look better on my record than taking another year away from school.

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Agriculture is at least a real industry. Too many kids are getting nonsense useless degrees.

I've always mocked sociology, based on what I see in articles and such, but I figured I should give it a fair chance. So I ordered the most popular introductory Soc textbook and forced myself to read it. I got over halfway through, and it was obvious that the rest would be the same, and that it is almost total nonsense.

A tiny fraction of the population will ever use algebra, much less calculus, and have no aptitute for it; they shouldn't be forced to try to learn it.

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She was good at math in high school, she was a mathlete. On the other hand, I wish I had been forced, I struggle with it now. 40 years later I may not remember it though. When she was home I had her help me when I got stuck on math problems. :-) I had here help when she was 4 yrs old and I had recently got a computer, " Amelia, I did this before but I can't remember how I did it" She could usually help me. When she was in kindergarten the teacher would have her help other students on tasks, one day she told the teacher "I'm going to keep everything I know under sheet" the teacher quizzed her about what that meant and decided she had been relying way to much on my daughter for help.

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I disagree. Whilst the notation is not important for most people, it would still be a better world if nearly everyone had an understanding of the behaviour of exponential growth. It would help people to stay out of debt, and may help the world's population get/stay below the number that it is possible to feed and keep in reasonable comfort. It would also help in convincing people that perpetual and continuous economic growth will not be possible without decoupling the economy from resource consumption (unless the magic get-out-of-jail card of space elevators is invoked).

Similarly, I think it might be better if a conceptual understanding of the 2nd law of thermodynamics were made a pre-requisite for becoming energy minister in any government (though in reality it would require some compulsory education with an exam at the end as I doubt that any politicians have the requisite knowledge already). Otherwise they get up to all sorts of stupidity even when they are not doing it on purpose:

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the worst example has to be gender studies and social justice

nonsense mixed with a cult like blind belief in nonsense

-Lasse

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Lasse Langwadt Christensen

Algebra is most people's last brush with anything rigorous. People in general need to understand that sometimes, there are definite processes you can use to make decisions, fix things or the like.

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We could feed everybody comfortably now. Talks to somebody who was in the Peace Corps and was paying attention.

Japan is just the bellwether for declining increases in population. There's much more of that to follow.

Perpetual growth is not only possible, it's inevitable. Growth now happens in spaces between things. The "tree" is the same basic height & volume, but there are more and more branches.

50 years ago, you ordered something from Sears and it got here in 6-8 weeks. Now you order something from Amazon and it gets here in two days.

That's growth.

Thermo is pretty easy to get wrong with just the basics.

That was nicely done, by whoever did it.

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Algebra and calculus courses don't teach those things. They teach how to solve equations.

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Then teach them how to machine metal, how to solder and weld, now to connect batteries and resistors and LEDs.

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Maybe that is part of the problem. Sometimes they used to, if you had a good teacher. Probably not any more - actually understanding something might be though irrelevant as it is not on the test.

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Chris Jones

Everybody "uses" algebra every day but they don't recognize it.

Then write a game app that teaches exponential growth by example, and sho ws how to see the principle in real-world situations. Avoid equations and f ocus on brightly colored characters, of course, but guessing an exponent fo r points? Could work.

We don't need space elevators for more resources if population stops incr easing and not for some time if it doesn't; in the meantime we need to use what we have better *and stop throwing stuff away*.

Mature, on-demand local 3D printing rather than mass-production and mass- shipping is half of the equation- we also need 3D "erasers" that can disass emble anything from dirt to old iPhones into component atoms and molecules to use as feedstock for the printers. No more landfills, no more toxic wast e (mostly).

I mean, 3D printing is in its infancy. I want an eraser/printer that I ca n dump a week's worth of household garbage and some dirt into and print a s ide of lamb, leaving me nice saleable bricks of silicon and aluminum and wh atnot. Not sure how I'd want to handle he selenium, arsenic, and like that though.

That capability will mean a whole different *kind* of economy but it may be inevitable. I don't expect to survive the transition period.

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Politicians just read a precis that an assistant writes and sign off on i t. I'd like the public to know who writes those and give us the opportunity to vote *them* out.

Mark L. Fergerson

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Alien8752

A "deke" to use Neal Stephenson's term from "The Diamond Age". Short for decompiler.

Clifford Heath.

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Clifford Heath

People should be doing a lot more but would rather get ripped off.

Twits have to solve a problem to tweet? Two gets ten minutes of the latest first-person game? Sounds like parenting to me.

Stick it inside a brick of SiO2.

We've had that but it requires thought. The one who can (will) explain such things won't be the one "giving" stuff away and will be excoriated by the other side as "heartless". Emotion wins every time.

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I was fortunate enough to live in the era good _old_ maid Algebra teachers... who, after teaching technique, emphasized word problems.

I still fondly remember my first Algebra teacher from 1953, Evelyn Truchovesky ;-) ...Jim Thompson

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The average American can't compute the number of square yards of carpet that they would need to cover a floor. Math classes should teach most kids practical stuff, not abstractions.

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If you want to get away from them all, you're in luck?

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Thank goodness for the Haber-Bosch process, eh? :) It keeps a few billion people well-fed.

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I've wondered why someone doesn't build thousands of greenhouses in Russia or Canada and grow some crops... maybe with breweries next door to recycle the carbon dioxide.

That would be great! Even better: encourage engineers to run.

Cheers,

Michael

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Do you have something against abstraction?

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Actually, yes.

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