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Why is this stuff a secret???

Where can I find data sheets or specifications for automotive parts such as
relays and switches? (Amperage ratings of contacts, pin and internal
component diagrams, duty rating of relays - continuous duty, etc.)

All the usual things provided by everybody else in the electrical world!

But this information is not anywhere on the internet and the only thing on
the product packaging is a part number! No ratings are on the devices
either! Just a part number...

Or is there an automotive parts manufacturer who provides this basic
information on their web site?

Example of a relay data sheet from the non-automotive world...
http://www.magnecraft.com/library/section8/105A_49.pdf



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"Bill"
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** Cos folk like you simply do not need to now.


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**  Probably no-where.

Car makers put out tenders for such parts and suppliers produce devices that
do the job for the lowest possible cost.


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** Car parts and spares for cars are a whole world unto themselves.


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** See above.


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**  What for?


Example of a relay data sheet from the non-automotive world...
http://www.magnecraft.com/library/section8/105A_49.pdf


** Relays supplied to car makers need only work at 12 volts DC.

   No other voltages or AC ratings exist for them.

   Bloody obvious, really.



....   Phil





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   **  hey phil  you fukin newbie
** go back to fixing up toasters
 ** what for  ?? does the guy have to tell you everything ? your one fukin
nosey prick.

**  tell me where u live phil and i`l;l kill ya.


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Relays are easy - the common ones tend to be 30 amp.

Here's the pinouts:-

http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/VWP-onlinestore/relays/relays.php

As regards switches there are so many in use it would be difficult to give
ratings for each and every one - especially since so many no longer switch
things directly, but just operate an electronic switch.

But if you know what the original app was and it was switching direct
would be easy to make an educated guess.

The same firm does a range of modular rockers and they're 15 amp.

http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/VWP-onlinestore/switches/modular.php

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Putting my conspiracy hat on.
In Europe , defense /medical /aero-space manufacturers , have a derogation
allowing the continued use of leaded solder/components, but AFAIK not
automotive industry.
They all know that to allow lead-free with heat and vibration of a car then
they will hardly get out of the factory before solder joints start to fail -
so they keep quiet about continuing to use leaded "tinning" of components
and leaded solder?


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hi, are you talking  about  original factory car relays and switches ??? or
after market , cause the after market ones have it labelled on them.


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On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:39:10 -0700, "Bill"

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Ford, GM, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Kia, Holden, Nissan,
Subaru, VW, MB, or what?

Each is different. Different maker, different specifications.

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try
http://www.bosch.se/content/language1/downloads/Relays_Catalog_2005_2006_eng.pdf



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http://www.bosch.se/content/language1/downloads/Relays_Catalog_2005_2006_eng.pdf

I'm buying Bosch parts from now on!

Thanks...



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Bosch has reduced the variety of relays available in the US.  There
are 24VDC relays typically used in heavy equipment and marine.  You
can try Hella and Tyco, Hella used to put out a catalog, lots of luck
with Tyco, although they do have data sheets if you drill into their
web site.  There is a US automotive switch manufacturer (can't think
of their name) that makes a variety of automotive and heavy equipment
switches, some sealed.


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hmmmm , theres one thing i wont  be buying from bosch , thats  spark plugs ,
bout a set of yttrium/platinum plugs $ 120 AUD..!!!!
then the whole ceramic centre electrode came of from the middle of the plug
, and ruined a $ 9500 aud  engine ,  before that i had a saab turbo , put a
set of std type platinum plugs , 2 weeks later , it developed a miss ,
changed overto ngk`s not a problem ,   after heated talks with bosch , even
they admitt their  platinum etc.... style plugs arent taht good !!



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I used to own an old Ford Escort, The Bosch plugs (2 sets) also cracked
around the centre electrode and dropped bits of ceramic into the engine.
I though it was just me.
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On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:13:15 +0930, "mark krawczuk"

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But all (us) Saab Turbo owners know that you should only use NGKs!


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:hmmmm , theres one thing i wont  be buying from bosch , thats  spark plugs ,
:bout a set of yttrium/platinum plugs $ 120 AUD..!!!!
:then the whole ceramic centre electrode came of from the middle of the plug
:, and ruined a $ 9500 aud  engine ,  before that i had a saab turbo , put a
:set of std type platinum plugs , 2 weeks later , it developed a miss ,
:changed overto ngk`s not a problem ,   after heated talks with bosch , even
:they admitt their  platinum etc.... style plugs arent taht good !!
:
:

I bought Autolite APP5224 for my '93 Mazda 626 V6 and they have performed
flawlessly for the last 5 years. Even paying the postage from the US they cost
me around AUD12 ea back then.
http://www.autolitesparkplugs.com/results_cross.asp?pid=app5224&x26%&y=8
Same deal for when you need to replace your oxygen sensors - import from the US
for a fraction of the price you pay here for replacement parts. Mazda wanted
$512 for each sensor (2 required) and I bought them in from
http://www.oxygensensors.com/ for less than half the the cost, even with the
freight.

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On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:39:10 -0700, "Bill"

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You might try SAE AS5363 perhaps with SAE J2544 or SAE J1859 or SAE
J1744 or SAE J2907.  Typically before you have enough to really work
with you will find you have to buy about a dozen or more standards.
Start with 1 or 2 and find the rest from the referenced standards that
those are written against.

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WILL YOU BE USING THE STIMULUS PACKAGE FOR THAT ?

I AM PROTEUS

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