Relay contact ratings.

In such socialist societies as Australia (and coming soon to the US), you'd better use the exact replacement and have it done by a certified technician... otherwise no insurance coverage at all. ...Jim Thompson

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**Idiot. EXACTLY the same situation exists in the US. And the US, like all Western Democracies, is, in part, a socialist nation. Always has been.

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**I never said it was. I said that the flammability of the house was (irrelevant).

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Wouldn't it be more correct to call the USA a fascist Nation ?

The definition of Fascism is the merger of corporation and state IIRC.

The recent laws pushed through that allow any US citizen to be grabbed and held indefinitely without trial or any legal process is pretty much cut and paste 1930s Germany. Not to mention the "super congress" crap that is a copy of the German "enabling act of 1933". These sort of underline the fascism theory.

Not that it matters, whether you set up that or socialism, there is only one result mountains of dead bodies, economic collapse, lack of work ethic or interest, decay, poverty those at the top of the tree are rich and powerful and the people are nothing.

This is why those in power and the mega rich love to push socialism.

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Flattery will get you nowhere with me ;-)

...Jim Thompson

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I am not. Just stating the fact. You call someone an idiot to counter his opinion and/or discredit him. I am countering your flattery statement here. In this context, you deserve to be an idiot.

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Er, yes. It was only a randomly selected item for the purpose of the discussion about power ratings. There are indeed much cheaper relays available that would, on the face of it, be up to the task.

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I'd never use something that isn't expressly rated for the voltages and currents I intend to use. There's nothing about a relay rated at 12VDC that would guarantee that the insulation is up to use for mains voltages.

Sylvia.

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It's not just a few watts. The rating plate says that in defrost mode the fridge draws 450 watts. That may be the initial power when the element is cold, but even when it's hot, it's clearly going to be drawing significant power.

Sylvia.

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You know what they say about people without a sense of humor... they begin to look like Larkin ;-) ...Jim Thompson

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A furnace relay should work: 8A @110V, 24V coil for around $10. I use a 5V relay to activate the 24V coil, but you can also use a MOSFET.

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**Very likely a misunderstanding.

You called my post irrevant

**The implication was clear.

1) That Australia was a Socialist nation.

2) That the US was not. 3) That the US was becoming a Socialist nation.

I will state again:

ALL Western Democratic nations operate as Socialist states. Every single one. Including the US. Always has done. Ever since the US Federal, State and local governments began collecting taxation, the US has been operating as a Socialist nation.

What JT IMAGINES is that Australia is more socialist than Australia. That may be true for some parts of the society and less so for other parts. In the case of the medical system, for instance, Australia enjoys a largely socialised medical system. Australians are very happy with that system. The US lacks a cohesive socialised medical system. As a consequence, some 50-odd million Americans have extremely poor access to good medical services. Additionally, some 60% of personal bankruptcies in the US are due to medical bills. Here in Australia, no one loses their home so they can stay alive.

And to get the issue back on topic, the US regulatory authorities have considerable influence of what can and can not be connected to US mains power. In the US, however, due to the low mains Voltage, there is far less risk to consumers than there is here in Australia.

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Why is this a bad thing? The governement won't stop you (or me) from experimenting on the main, but would stop us from selling unsafe products to unsuspecting customers. Otherwise, i would have sold you a furnace with auto relays. Don't blame me for burning down the house.

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**I don't consider regulation necessarily a bad thing. LACK of regulation is, in general, far worse.

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Not sure about getting a 555 to run at 1 cycle per six hours.

A PIC would no doubt do the job easily, but then I'd have to invest in hardware to program it.

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we use 240 volts

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