Re: Red Alert on Green Bulbs

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You're lying, as always.

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happens in houses where
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maximum and left there.

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You're lying, as always.

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dimmer control knob is set to max
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the dimmer.

Pity about the dimmable CFLs, you silly little pig ignorant pathological liar.

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Pity it completely ignored the dimmable CFLs, you silly little pig ignorant
pathological liar.

<reams of your rabid psychotic raving flushed where it belongs>



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Read this recent thread on "dimmable"  CFL that is entitled:

"How many CFLs does it take to ...."

This is a quick link to the google archive
http://groups.google.com.au/group/aus.electronics/browse_frm/thread/fc5aaf7 =
f9af82e49?hl3D%en#

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pathological liar.

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http://groups.google.com.au/group/aus.electronics/browse_frm/thread/fc5aaf7f9af82e49?hl=en #

Not interested, there are plenty of dimmable CFLs available.



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"Rod Speed"
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http://groups.google.com.au/group/aus.electronics/browse_frm/thread/fc5aaf7f9af82e49?hl=en #
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**  The thread is about "dimmable"  CFLs   -   you illiterate FUCKHEAD !!

The Q was asking how many dimmable CFLs does it take to overload and blow a
standard wall plate dimmer.


 FUCKWIT  !!




......  Phil





Re: Red Alert on Green Bulbs
Some psychotic toaster molester claiming to be
Phil Allison desperately attempted to bullshit and lie it way out
of its predicament and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.

Unfortunately the NSW cops now use tasers so its unlikely he'll be summarily
executed now.



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"Rod Speed"
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** You did not read the damn article.

    The preamble is not the article  !!

     FUCKWIT   !!



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** You did not read the damn article.

    The preamble is not the article  !!

     FUCKWIT   !!




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**  Completely irrelevant to what the advice is about.

 You did not read the damn article.

 The preamble is not the article  !!

  FUCKWIT   !!


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**  You did not read the damn article.

   The preamble is not the article  !!

   FUCKWIT   !!




.......  Phil



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If you know the guy that did that article, this might be of interest
for further research by those with knowledge of the systems:

A related matter involves C-Bus and similar "electronic home control"
systems.
Most of these systems IIRC support dimming, "soft on/off" etc which
would surely be
handled by a Triac based system. While these aren't common in homes
yet, they have been appearing in up-market and "smart" building
designs

EA (?) some years back also published kit construction details for
modules for switching/dimming bulbs even, and the dimmer ones used a
triac.


Some months ago I was talking to a manager of a local hotel/resort
complex, and the subject of lighting control systems came up, asking
if I could help with a problem they have.
They have an "electronic control system" system thats about 4 years
old ( I think C bus but not sure) that controls hundreds of bulbs in a
bar and restaurant area.

The comment made was "recently - regularly the units connected to the
bulbs are 'burning out', and have to be replaced at about $100 a
pop".  The electrician says they are "probably under-rated as they are
failing repeatedly".

I havent seen the system or been to the premises and am not making
adverse comments on C-bus in particular.

After posting the link to "how many CFL's does it take to...." earlier
today  the penny dropped.

Maybe they have been changing to CFLs in some fittings and maybe the
control system isnt designed for it ?   I will have to find out if
they have recently changed bulbs, system might work great on
incandescent loads - but not be designed or intended to be used with
CFL, even dimmable ones.  The repeated current spikes on dimmable CFL,
on triac dimmers - even if only one dimmer per bulb - used in large
numbers in commercial premises might make for some very nasty
intermittent problems with nuisance tripping of breakers, need for
thicker cabling, "dirty" power throughout the building etc.

With the current economic conditions, and if incandescent are banned
or become "politically incorrect to be seen by the public to be used,
commercial premises with these systems may start bulk installations of
CFL for "cost cutting".

Re: Red Alert on Green Bulbs
Some psychotic toaster molester claiming to be
Phil Allison desperately attempted to bullshit and lie it way out
of its predicament and fooled absolutely no one at all, as always.

Unfortunately the NSW cops now use tasers so its unlikely he'll be summarily
executed now.



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