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Which might be true *IF* the politicians and other power mongers, weren't
even more brain dead the rest of society!

MrT.



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Of course if "the rest of society" is also brain dead, then they won't
be able to tell and won't care. It's also counter-intuitive to think
that those who were brain dead could in general get in charge of
anything if more able people were about, because those more able would
be better at mobilising the brain dead than the inferior specimens
putatively in charge.

Fran




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Many do care or they wouldn't be constantly complaining.

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It's even more stupid to think the most intelligent people actually want to
become politicians, or to control other peoples lives.
Many do object to having morons control their lives however.

MrT.



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But are they "brain dead uneducated morons" because if so, perhaps
their constant complaints are unfounded, like small children saying
"oh Mummy, but why???" and throwing themselves on the ground and
whimpering because their favoutie show isn't on or they can't stop for
ice cream on the trip back from the beach.

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Well they can't be all that bothered because if they were they'd make
it their business to prevent it, or manipulate some not quite so brain
dead uneducated moronic person into office and give them riding
instructions.

Fran

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Yes it's a pity you think those with a modicum of intelligence should have
to spend their lives fighting "brain dead" politicians too.
Would you actually prefer a world where all scientists for example went into
politics instead? I'd hate to live in that world!
Unfortunately they are not so capable at propaganda and are adverse to the
corruption necessary to succeed in politics in any case.

Barry Jones probably did as well in politics as anybody with high
intelligence has ever done in this country, and he had little real
influence, even as president of the ALP. The game is stacked against them by
those morons already in power, and will remain so.

MrT.






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Well unless they are relaxed about being controlled by brain-dead
uneducated morons, what choice do they have? Of course if people who
are not brain dead uneducated morons are relaxed about being
controlled by them, perhaps we can infer that control by such people
isn't such a bad thing and is something all people, whether "brain
dead uneducated morons" or not should accept.

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Well yes, but then I don't believe that most people or even most
politicians are "brain dead uneducated morons". If I did believe it
I'd see scientists getting involved in politics as a lesser evil
imposed by unfortunate circumstance.

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Well it's not unfortunate in your opinion since in your opinion you'd
"hate to live in that world".

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If morons can stack the game to keep non-morons out, then they aren't
morons. Nasty? Yes. Venal? Maybe. Moronic? Nope. QED

Fran

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Put up with it, or risk going to jail starting a revolution perhaps?

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So if one doesn't wish to become a politcician or start a revolution, it
automatically means you are "relaxed" about having your life controlled by a
stupid politician.
In fact I think it's the morons who only see things in terms of black &
white!


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Not a term I coined, but not too far from the truth either.
Maybe "corrupt, greedy, illogical egomaniacs" would be MY definition.


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No more computers and internet then, or almost any technology we currently
take for granted.


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As I said, it wasn't my definition. But shit-house rats don't have to be all
that smart either, just cunning.
Maybe that's *your* idea of smart though.

MrT.



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You don't see any other options? Really?

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Fallacy: False dichotomy

The two aren't the only options.

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This is where I point out that you conjured a false dichotomy and
invite you to show why you aren't hoist by your own petard.

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Really? Let's assume Mr Allison's description came from the viscera
rather than his head and it was no more than an extravagant piece of
rhetoric. What he really meant to say was that politicians and the
mass of the public were naive and undereducated. That's also not true.

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And that's not like it either. You've substituted an entirely new
description.

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The price you pay for social failure.

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Being cunning requires empathy -- the capacity to understand the
perspectives of others and the flaws that drive their preferences, the
resources that arfe ready to hand and what one can realistically
achieve with them.

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It's most people's idea of smart, which is a long way from honest.

The problem is that the terms "moron", "brain dead" and "uneducated"
are adduced as moral judgements because perceived lack of intelligence
and erudition is often seen as some sort of moral failure or statement
of diminished humanity. This is of course, utterly specious.

Fran

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Or just ensure that no politician gets any say what so ever on anything you do.

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politician.

No politician controls mine.

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Corse you dont do anything like that yourself, eh ?

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Nothing like the truth, actually.

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Corse thats nothing like black and white, eh ?

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Mindlessly silly. That stuff happens regardless.

And hardly any of it is done by scientists anyway.

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Corse thats nothing like black and white, eh ?

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Corse thats nothing like black and white, eh ?



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ROFLMAO
Just check out all the pre-programmed RodBot responses.
I wonder how many times the pathetic RodBot has used exactly the same
automatically generated phrases over and over again?
It's like listening to a recording.  Like a Pavlov's dog, ring the bell and
he comes a barking with the usual mindless drivel.  Sigh........



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   At least Pavlov's dog was paper trained.


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You mean you don't have him kill-filed?

MrT.



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Nah, he's an interesting case study into predictable behaviour patterns.
Some would go so far as to comment on Roddles as a "has been".  The sad
truth in Roddles case is you had to have been something to be a "has been".
Poor old Roddles was nothing to begin with, therefore the tag "has been"
can't be applied in his case. :P
Besides, kill-filing him doesn't completely eliminate having to read his
rubbish when someone else responds to his drivel. :-(



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been".
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Commonly called a "never was" here.

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Does cut out a hell of a lot since so many people have him kill-filed
already.

MrT.



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Thanks for the heads up.

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Agreed.  Not many take much serious notice of him.



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