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A child of 5 or 6 high functioning autistic,is there some way to  
introduce arduino type or any other electronic programming technology  
that is self learning when you do not know the capabilities of the child  
or what is locked up in there? the parents are not in the electronic  
field,apparently he is alright at maths sometimes he walks past his 8  
year old sister doing maths and out of the blue he will tell her the  
answer, he comes out with all sorts of stuff, don't know what is locked  
up in there He seems  normal to the uninitiated.

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On 01/11/2016 10:34, F Murtz wrote:
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Your best bet might be some kind of cheap tablet device and see what he  
finds interesting rather than try and choose a path. Finding out if he  
is any good at Sudoku or other visual pattern matching puzzles would be  
one way to proceed. Apps are cheap (mostly trials are zero cost).

Martin Brown

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Martin Brown wrote:
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He already has access to all that kind of tech and is better at it than  
the oldies.

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On 02/11/2016 00:06, F Murtz wrote:
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You are still better off letting him choose what he wants to learn  
within reason and then look out for apps that may appeal to him. There  
are plenty of puzzles to choose from and then you will get some idea of  
what areas he excels at to choose better things in future.

 From the description you have given then Flow Free might be the sort of  
thing that he would find absorbing :


But don't ignore classic board games like checkers, solitaire, othello,  
chess and go (in increasing order of difficulty). Some good free  
resources on PCs and Android at least up to GM level.

There is a curious link between being naturally good at mathematics and  
musical ability by lazy pattern matching which you might want to look  
for. Not always true but often enough to be worth taking a look at.

Mechano or a safer plastic alternative might also appeal. Likewise for  
modelling clay or drawing pencils. The wider the range of experiences  
they get to try the more likely you are to find the right one.

Martin Brown

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On 2/11/2016 7:38 PM, Martin Brown wrote:
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It's not a 'curious' link but a definite physical one related to  
spatial-temporal reasoning. Look up the Mozart effect for more info and  
direction. If a child has learnt to play a musical instrument, they fare  
better with tasks requiring spatial-temporal cognition, hand eye  
coordination and mathematics skills. The reason for this is the overlap  
between music skills and maths skills. The patterns of rhythm, beat,  
melody and harmony that people find pleasant in music are embodied  
mathematical expressions.
The linkage was explained to me many, many years ago by an electronics  
engineer who was also a muso. He explained to me in infinite detail the  
The upshot of this is that if you want your children to fare better with  
mathematics, then have them also learn to play a musical instrument. Not  
only are they developing their ability to make music, they are also  
strengthening their mind to cope with mathematical reasoning.
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Re: OT ?
On 1/11/2016 9:34 PM, F Murtz wrote:
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Self learning is an inherent capability of humans. What the parents of  
the boy (and you) need to do is observe him and you will soon figure out  
where his interests lie. Once you have worked out what the particular  
talents are, you can then cater to them.

You have a few issues here you need to be aware of. One, children with  
ASD tend to obsess over things and that can become a hindrance to other  
learning needs - social skills for example. Two, if you push a thing  
onto a kid you may find they take it up, not because they like it, but  
because they want to please you. They will also continue long after they  
have become bored with it for the same reason. This will hinder the  
child from discovering his own underlying talents or interests. Three,  
take your time, watch the kid at play, see what interest him, make  
suggestions and, above all, expect false starts. After all, the kid is  
experimenting too and may seem to get interested in something but later  
get bored. That's why you need to make sure that whatever you suggest or  
offer is not seen by the child as an imperative. Fourth, whatever you  
offer, ensure that it will not allow the child to become a hermit.  
Children on the ASD have issues with social skills so try to offer  
suggestions, etc. that require human interaction. Fifth, nurture any  
signs of self expression that may be displayed and don't be negative.  
You never know what those bits of self expression may lead to.



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Re: OT ?
On Tue, 01 Nov 2016 21:34:09 +1100, F Murtz wrote:

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Buy him a kit to play with.
Tell him if he doesn't want it, he can give it back to you,

IME, they have to decide what interests them.

Maths, logic problems are really easy stuff and may not indicate the  
ability to do deeper work. books of puzzles might be all that they are  
interested in.

Basically, they are only 5-6, just liable to be fanatical/absorbed if it  
interests them.

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