NZ reverses ban on lamps

My stock are zero, I don't use'em.

Dave.

Not good enough. We have a lot of dimmers, and the lights they're connected to are often operated at low levels, maybe even lower power levels than a full-brightness CFL. If there was an equivalent LED replacement available now, I'd consider switching. As it is, the incandescent ban will force me to remove the dimmers and/or change many light fittings - I'll be stocking up instead.

Can anyone suggest a bulk supplier who'll sell by the box at a good price? Middy's, perhaps?

Clifford Heath.

If you can't find a bulk supplier, Bunnings still seem to have a lot of stock, but forget the supermarkets - they seem to have none.

Peter

So I take it you have no trouble finding the smaller lamp fitting format, AND at a price that is within the realm of somewhat reasonable?

Because so far, neither is the case.

I'm stocking up on incandescents, because the CFLs are going to be easy to get anyway, and so far, as far as failure rate goes (testing over a year) CFL wins by a nose. Just a nose. Just accounting for life TIME, disregarding cost. In other words, incandescents win by a mile on the value-for-money scale.

But screw that, dish out a few freebies to key voters, and let them sort out the cost themselves later. Politics is more important.

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Was having a discussion about this with a friend who is a Real Estate rental property manager. Many rental properties would have dimmers, and its inevitable that tenants are going to put CFL's into the dimmed sockets - (if they arent already) for certain once they are banned.

I suggested that he get all the dimmers removed - This didn't go down to well, considering the cost involved.

None what so ever, plenty of minature CF's around for my more unusual (smaller) fittings. Of course I was also smart enough to install compact fluro friendly fittings when appropriate when I moved in. I'm now starting to use the T5 flush mount circular fluros too for my most used lights:

Very nice even light, high output, instant turn-on, no flicker, wife-approved looks, and supposedly much longer life because they run cooler with the external circuitry.

So rather than just bitch about the negative aspects of compact fluros's, as many people on here tend to do, I did something about it and have no problems what so ever.

Yep, I think so.

For you maybe. I have no problems at all, thanks.

Funny how some of my compact fluros's have been going for close to 10 years now.

Only a few of the CF's I've had over the years have had either short life, flicker, or slow warm up times. I didn't bitch about it, I simply used appropriate fittings and found ones that worked as I wanted and expected.

Dave.

Thanks for the link Dave, have been looking for something like this for a while.

I have a couple of light fittings that cant accomodate a decent CFL. The 13W = 100W light output is crap if you ask me. I tried to buy a CFL that would fit my light fixtures and they are a piss poor alternative, not bright enough.

I've got this one in particular:

Available in two different wattage sizes.

Was supplied with a 4200K cool white globe, which I normally like, but I found it much too harsh in my room in this case, almost blinding. Found the

2700K warm white was much better suited. Spare T5 globes were around $8 IRRC.

The "Megaman" brand compact fluros are also excellent, but quite expensive. Available in a range of fittings.

Dave.

And yes, dimmable versions in normal and downlight style available too for those who like to have a whinge.

Dave.

You believed a dummed down consumer friendly marketing driven rough comparison? Real-life comparisons vary enormously depending on many factors.

You need to look harder. There are now oodles of different types and the wattage/size ratio seems to be improving every year. Try:

for starters.

Dave.

"The Real Andy"

** Course it's crap

- as no CFL maker claims any such thing.

You stupid drunk prick.

..... Phil

13W = 100W ?

The comparisons I have seen generally give about a 1:5 ratio, making it closer to 13W equivalent to 60W.

Andy Wood snipped-for-privacy@trap.ozemail.com.au

I have a couple of CFLs in the bedrooms. The CFL is integrated inside a large frosted globe, they look nice and give a very diffused light, but they take a hell of a time to warm up. They take nearly 5 minutes to reach full brightness, they also give a faint green glow for a couple of minutes after being turned off.

Anybody else seen this effect, other CFLs in the house do not exhibit these characteristics.

Keith

You need a 23W typ CFL to equal a 100W GLS lamp.

Look carefully on the packaging and the CFL is compared to a 'softone' i.e. low output bulb.

Graham

As long as you can afford the electricity costs, especially when carbon taxes are introduced, otherwise you may regret it.

MrT.

How badly do you pong ?

Graham

I doubt it will ever happen as AGW has about 2-3 years left in it befiore the actual truth comes out.

You can also vote for an anti-AGW party.

Graham

As the internet is largely responsible for exposing more and more government bullshit - such as this - and ruining their plans, making governments look the fools they are, No wonder they are desperate to censor the net.