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Front page news in Electronics News this month:
Panasonics TV factory at Penrith west of Sydney has closed due to the
boom in the LCD/Plasma market.

The Penrith plant manufactured all of Panasonics medium to large screen
CRTs for the Asia-Pacific market. They used to churn out a finished and
boxed TV even 49 seconds or so, impressive stuff.

A sad loss for the Australian industry.

Dave :)


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what are we comming to

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A country of bad spellers and lousy grammar?



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I thought palsonic assembled in australia too, or is that the same
factory?


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I thought "Palsonic" was just a rip off monika trying to fool people that
their "no name" Chinese made crap was actually made by Panasonic.
Do you have any information to the contrary?

MrT.



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I was close, kinda:

http://www.palsonic.com.au/about_us/about.htm

Seems Palsonic is an Aussie company, that looks like it rebadges gear
made by offshore manufacturers.


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How do you figure that? Have they *ever* assembled TV's in Australia as you
suggest, or always imported and rebadged them, as they do now?
It seems to me they have simply changed badges from "Princess" to
"Palsonic".


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Which is what I said.

MrT.



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Being a service agent for Palsonic, i can tell that al the Tvs I've seen are
"made is china".
But i must admit it is heaps better than other asian brands. HDTV models
(76WSHD), for example are quite good.

Rudolf




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What do you expect!


What do you expect!
We all want a decent Pay each week,
We are not Little China men working in a country earning next to nothing.
We have govts with Free trade agreements saying its a good thing,
They also drop the Import duty's.
China do not have a floating currency, its like we used to be years ago, a
fixed Exchange rate.
So in reality they have a VERY cheap exchange rate.
So yeah, they and other Asian Countries will ALWAYS out perform us Caucasian
Wage earners....
So don't Gripe when our poor Australian Companies cannot compete against
these guys,
It just will never happen...
Personally, I think they should have High Tariffs on ALL imported Gear, and
anything Made Locally should be free of Tax and other duties. Thus putting
us on a better equal playing field. It snot Just electronics, it should be
across the board, Cars, Foods etc..

Allan

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I get a decent pay each week. Don't you? If not, perhaps you should consider
a different vocation. Perhaps being a lawyer, doctor, surgeon, accountant,
architect, mechanical, project, or electrical engineer would make you happier
with your pay packet.

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Quite a lot of Chinese women work in factories producing electronic goods.
Their standard of living has improved vastly in the past 10 years.

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Making imported goods cheaper. After all, why should my hard-earned cash go
to the treasury in the form of tariff payents, to protect inefficient local
companies who
don't want make their goods cheaper. Tariffs amount to little more than
protection
money, ie extortion. And why should Australian goods be more expensive to foreign
consumers, because the local manufacturers can't make their goods cheaper/better
or more innovative.

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Labour is also very cheap. Overseas companies also get incentives to build
factories
and employ local people. More investment, more factories, business want a more
educated workforce so they can expand their businesses, thus wages increase,
prices increase, etc.

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Oh really? I don't see Australian industry falling over itself to head into
oblivion
because the Asians are "outperforming" us. Remember that the economy of many
Asian
countries were in recession for many years when Australia was booming. And still
is.
Japan until recently had zero growth for about 10 years.

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As I understand, the factory was owned by overseas interests (Matsushita Electric
Industrial Co.) so the decision to close the factory would not have been made
locally.
BTW, Panasonic is investing $150 million for a building and equipment in
Singapore.
(I can just hear the steam coming out of Allan's ears right about now  ;-)   )
Besides, who's buying large screen crts anyway? And who really wants to stuff
pcbs day in, day out anyway? Do you? That's why pcb stuffing machines were
invented. Oh, and to reduce costs.

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Roll over and die then, eh? Don't innovate then, eh? Don't develop new products
and develop new markets, eh? Who, other than another large manufacturer
would want to mass produce other domestic equipment like dvd players, tv's, to
compete against other manufacturers? There ain't the incentives for a small
start-up to
produce and compete in those markets other than for manufacturers building
specialised
equipment, ie Halcro.

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What equal playing field? Since when do world markets consist of "level playing
fields"?
Countries all over the world have tariffs to protect their local markets. Food?
You want
cars, food, housing, electronic goods to be more expensive, just so we can be on
an
"equal playing field"? Who's playing field? Yours?

I'm glad you're not in government.


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So why do you think they closed the Factory in Australia, and  investing
$150 million for a building and equipment in Singapore?

Because I , like YOU want a Good wage.

Allan



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accountant,
nothing.
Against the capital cost of the equipment, a few wages are (not quite, but
essentially) irrelevant. Singapore gives massive subsidies by way of tax
breaks, tax holidays, and a lesser corporate tax rate.

Cheers.

Ken



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 ... and the Singaporeans aren't that far behind us when it comes
to wages, and what they'll work for. It's a first world country,
arguably more technically advanced than us, and the punters there
have an expectation for stand of living and ability to afford gadgets
that is not unlike ours.

 A key difference lies in the "power distance" in their culture.
They have a greater respect for authority than we do, and as a
result are likely to be "better" for various values of "work harder",
"quality", etc as a derivative.

 If you wanted cheap labour, you wouldn't set up in Singapore. You'd
go there for central location, high level of skill, high power
distance, etc. Not on labour costs though.

GB
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 "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the
  entrails of the last priest." (Diderot, paraphrasing Meslier)

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I thought that was odd that a company like that would go to Singapore,
when places like india and even china (still) have much cheaper
manufacturing costs. An in addition, the cost of living there is
apparently quite high tdhese days, so I assume real estate is also
quite scarce in singapore.




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I've worked for a couple of large multi-national companies, and where
the work goes has not much to do with the economics of it, it's mostly
to do with internal politics. People protecting their own local jobs,
managers and directors with their own career agenda, whos greasing whos
wheels etc.
In the case of the big name consumer giants there is probably a fair
bit of government politics involved as well.
Who knows, some manufacturing director with a lot of clout may simply
have preferred to move his family to Singapore instead of China - bingo
Singapore get the billion dollar factory.

Dave :)


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While that's no doubt true to an extent, it could make good sense to put
a large investment for the Asia region into Singapore rather than China
or India despite the wage differential as the legal/political structure
is a better known animal.

Ken

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The market for crts is drying up. There's no point in making something en mass
that nobody is going to buy. The market is going for plasma and lcd screens,
something the Panasonic factory was not geared to produce, and would be
very expensive to setup for production and testing of flat panel displays.

They are setting up in Singapore for another reason, not directly associated
with producing flat panel displays. You can read about it here

http://www.reed-electronics.com/electronicnews/article/CA6306437.html

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I'm getting a good wage, and it's not because I work on an assembly line.

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David


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 Interesting. Matsushita's semiconductor assembly plant in Singapore
west is the company I did the intial install of an ERP system for
some ten or so years ago. Big place, impressive. Nice folks too. And
plenty of real estate out there for expansion. Very Japanese/Fordist,
the entire workforce started their day with calisthenics in the
'quadrangle'!

 They had some really impressive SMT assembly capability back when
SMT was very very new and whiz-bang (It still warranted a 'T' in the
name, instead of a lowly 'D'!). One wonders what they're up to
nowadays!

GB
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 "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the
  entrails of the last priest." (Diderot, paraphrasing Meslier)

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oil, software, medicine, books...

Bye.
   Jasen

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It was to be expected, but it is still sad news none the less.

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Funny how the Panasonic factory has been going so well for so long then
isn't it?
It only went belly up because the CRT market has declined drastically.

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I didn't, you're putting words into my mouth.
The factory closed because the CRT market is in decline, that was
expected. It has got nothing to do with them not being able to compete,
they have been doing that sucessfully for a very long time.

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The world doesn't work that way, it's a tad more complicated.

Dave :)


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