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Internet, now 20 years in Australia
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Hi Don

Thanks for this. A trip down amnesia lane. It facinates me that the internet
is so young and yet has had such an impact on people's lives. It is good to
see JANET mentioned as well as this was the first network I used to send
email when at University back in 1987. Little did I know email would now
dictate my life.

Times have changed. Can you imagine life without mobile phones, PCs and the
internet? I was all so different back then...

Thanks

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Imagine? No need,

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That was when there was the illusion of quality TV programs.

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Yet people have forgotten how to communicate, go figure.



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Hello, I bought a Commodore 64 in 1984. The internet was rudimentary
until the Sydney Morning Herald opened up the topic. Email was
possible tho I think it was just messaging  copied from the English
Prestel. I was friendly with a group of techies from Telecom. The
internet came for me with the Amiga. We had an early way to get to the
internet but as there was no server on NSW Central Coast for a while
we had to download what we wanted and looked at it later. Remember the
user groups? Dick Smith was the first I saw of shopping.

nof

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Boards.http://www.dontronics-shop.com/sparkfun-electronics.html
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I was on Packet radio long before the internet.
Real internet didn't start until HTML code came along.

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I, too, was wondering about this definition of the Internet in Australia.
(Like many) I was using UUCP-based email, TCP/connection-based FTP,
and cross-Pacific telnet, well before 1989, so I wonder if the arrival
of HTTP/HTML is really just a simplifying generalization.

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Well otherwise you could say that morse code was a form of internet, or
even lighting signal fires on top of hills, I mean really, you need a
better definition of internet.

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As IP can be transmitted via morse code, I wouldn't discount it.
However, I certainly wouldn't claim it *was* the internet any time before the
appearance of IP.

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Second on the core Internet being tcp/ip technology. There were other
networks, but it is the inter-connectability that made the Internet work.

HTML is just a eye-candy delivery method.

AFAIK, most other networks were structured around a hierachy. In The
Internet, so long as  machine has an IP address, it can talk to any other
IP address.





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It may only be eye candy but HTML is what made the internet useful and
easy to use. The internet would still only be known to nerdy geeks if
HTML didn't exist. Packet radio was one of many networking systems, IP
addressing wasn't the first. I was communicating with people on the MIR
space station before the IP internet came to town.

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Ironic considering *you* are posting on a part of the internet that existed
long before the advent of the HTML based WWW. :-)

MrT.



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Indeed. I was an avid BBS user from the early 80's, & the first I heard
of Usenet was when newsgroups were gatewayed into BBS Echo groups (via
UUCP, IIRC) - long before public Internet access arrived in '95.

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Like I said above about nerdy geeks.

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You too can apply for a spot on "Beauty and the Geek" then, but I wouldn't
expect too much with that attitude :-)

MrT.



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Mate, I'm crushed. ;^)

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Yeah I have to admit I wasn't sure if that was an insult or a compliment.

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<grin> There are lots of us who'd be perfectly happy for Usenet access
to go back to being "nerdy geeks" only.

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umm, Davo's comment, email, archie, gopher and probably other I've never
used.

it was useful before

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well used by nerdy geeks. HTML is really dross for the stupid; people who
are basically illiterate.

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Correct, there were many networking systems around. None of which had the
versatility of the internet, which is partly why they all disappeared.
The Internet is a bit Borgish really, if your networking system can
interface to it, then your networking system can be part of the internet.

The thing about it wasn't just the physical interface, it is the
"virtual" interfaces like email, usenet, etc,etc. If your networking
system can interface to those, then that part of the internet can be on
your network.

The other problem with proprietary networks was the "cost", you had to
buy the hardware (bleed $$$$) and the software (bleed $$$$).


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Not the issue. It wasn't invented, but evolved.

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That's not true. Prior to HTML the internet was extreemly useful to those
in research and development, military, educational institutions and other
technical areas. And although you might not think it was easy to use none
of us had trouble grasping the concepts required.

HTML certainly allowed the average person easier access to information, a
bonus when the internet was commercialised , and it is a great way to order
and structure documents, however it is not the be all and end all of the
internet.

mike
  

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