If you used discrete components how big would it be?

Unions were effective about 100 years ago, before they were run by lawyers nd criminals.

Sorry, but when I was able to work it was high tech areas where they had to pay to get good people. Yes, unions got rid of sweat shops in the US. Now the jobs are in third world sweat shops. I have seen plants closed for good they day the workers signed their union papers, and others come back to work for less money after a strike to keep their jobs. The workers at Cincinnati Electronics went out on strike. The owners built a new plant in Mexico and was going to send everything bu QA and rework to the plant before the workers who managed to keep a job cam back at half their former pay. They also gave up their seniority and health care. Some union protection there!

Microdyne workers voted in a union, kept it for about a year and voted it out because it cost them money and delayed every dealing between management and the employees.

They were run by both even then.

They weren't as blatant about it back then. They tried to project a benevolent image to the public to get the people to join.

Depends on the union. Plenty of criminals in the union during the shearing strike of 1891, right thru to torching shearing sheds.

Some did, some didnt, just like now.

True, and parliaments have never been effective, they have always been run by lawyers and criminals.

What morons. The jobs will go to Mexico or China anyway. I agree unions are now useless. As long as people are willing to be slaves, there are plenty of people willing to take advantage of it.

MrT.

One of their demands when they walked out was a 50 percent raise. There was over a 50% loss of jobs in Cincinnati before the smoke cleared.

Yep, and it's happened even faster in non unionised factories. If everyone worked for the same wages as the Chinese, there would be no loss of factory jobs. Are you prepared to work for 50c an hour? Are the factory owners?

Mr.T.

But what about the alternative - at present the union scum are trying to shut down the clothing sweatshops - end result is that if they do then the workers are out of a job, no pay, and perhaps unable to meet commitments.

The union scum that casue that misery though are still getting their pay packet each week.

Unions just don't give a damn about the workers who want to work

David

More than just useless, they are scumbags.

In the US back in the 20's and 30's there were protection rackets, where the heavies visited places of business and demanded a cut of the take or the place would be 'closed down'

Sadly here in Oz we had the same racket, but it was run by the union scumbags - when my 15 yr old daughter wanted to work in a supermarket, some union scum insisted she hand over part of her wages each week, else she wouldn't be allowed to work.

The same protection racket, just by a different name

David

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

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workers

I'd rather that than work for 50c an hour in a high cost country like USA. How about you? Happy to work in a sweatshop? Or are you a hypocrit?

packet

Bullshit, if all their members are out of work, who is paying their wages? Look to the politicians if you want to see the real scum problem.

Very Funny! The Multinational bosses do of course, but only if the peasants want to work for 50c an hour while the bosses get a few million dollars a year!

MrT.

scumbags -

scum

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That was John Howard and Peter Costello!

MrT.