Free electricity?

Is this for real..??

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**LOL! Not in this universe.
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Depends what you mean by "for real"?

If you're asking whether it's possible to extract energy from an antenna, the answer is yes. Crystal radios have always worked this way.

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Note the historical lack of any government attempts to keep that technology quiet.

Indeed, energy always has to come from an antenna, or there'd be no signal for the receiver to receive.

If you're asking whether it can be used to have a measurable impact on your electricity bill, the answer is no. The amount of energy that can be extracted from an antenna is miniscule, which is one reason no one uses a crytal radio for their listening pleasure these days.

Sylvia.

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I have heard of something similar where you have a giant (or large) fence made of chook wire and an anode at the top & and a cathode bottom of one end. Works best in a windy area, evidently the wind passing over the wire causes electrons to flow and it is possible to charge a battery with it. The obvious problems are

  1. no wind
  2. thunderstorms. To prevent backflow a sparkplug was used as well the spark did the charging. I did not pursue this line as I did not want to burn the place down. HTH

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In the video a small generator can charge a mobile phone.

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"Julia finally got something right. Older people don't vote Labor, because they have seen too many incompetent, mismanaging, money-wasting Labor governments"

"If you think utility prices are high now, watch them go through the roof with the Green/ALP carbon tax"

The insane Greens! ..

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"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other peoples money"

"Those who tolerate intolerance will cease to exist"

"Truth is the new hate speech"

"Political correctness is a polite form of tryanny"

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So it's not possible to build a generator large enough to have any practical use, because of the limited capacity of an antenna to power it? What about using a bigger antenna?

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"Julia finally got something right. Older people don't vote Labor, because they
have seen too many incompetent, mismanaging, money-wasting Labor governments"

"If you think utility prices are high now, watch them go through the roof with
the Green/ALP carbon tax"

The insane Greens! .. http://tinyurl.com/insane-Greens

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other peoples
money"

"Those who tolerate intolerance will cease to exist"

"Truth is the new hate speech"

"Political correctness is a polite form of tryanny"
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Felix_the_cat

It shows a wire being plugged into a mobile phone. No evidence that that wire was connected to the device. People have been known to lie to obtain money.

Sylvia.

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Sylvia Else

Still not. Ultimately, it's limited by the power density in the region of the antenna, which is simply not that great. The site is a scam, pure and simple.

Sylvia.

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Felix_the_cat wrote in news:7goCo.1844$MF5.395 @viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com:

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Not unless you are talking miniscule (nanoamp order) "energy harvesting" systems. This might help explain why:

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Of course there is free electricity (unless old Sol starts billing us) it is called solar power.

Back when I was in Uni we used to have free electricity, courtesy of a much modified electricity meter. Rare Earth magnets are amazing things - when properly placed.

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Such things exist but the physics makes the situation such that unless you have incredibly high energy levels around the genny you get out less than goes in , it might be viable on the suns surface assuming you survive Years ago in Luxenburg I saw a string of light glowing well while unplugged iluminating a cafe' but thats because the local 100kw radio tx was about 100 metres away

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You could try getting between high-bandwidth microwave transmission towers.

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trouble is with syliva anything done to the head has little effect on the lack of content

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I didn't mean Sylvia physically. I meant you could collect energy there.

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But i did sorta like a blackhole

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answer is yes. Crystal radios have always worked

quiet.

the receiver to receive.

That does not follow considering the operation of a light dependant resister.

electricity bill, the answer is no. The amount of

no one uses a crytal radio for their listening

Plenty of people listen to crystal radios, we built ones with a single component plus earpiece, had old military high impedance headphones, amplifiers...

Jaycar or Leisuretronics had a solar powered hydrogen generator kit. I wondered if it would scale up for practical fueling purposes, apparently it does.

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Beats ethanol!

Herc

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**No, it cannot.
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**It's not about size. It's about location. The size of the antenna relates to the frequency of operation. Your TV enatenna, for example, sucks a minute amount of energy from the TV transmitters. Think in terms of pico Watts (10^ -9 Watts). And a TV antenna is not a small device. Location, OTOH, is vital. It you (could) run an antenna a few hundred kms straight up and anchor it (somehow) in orbit, you could extract significant amounts of power by virtue of the antenna 'cutting' the magnetic lines that surround our planet. Scientists are working on just that. It is WAY beyond the home constructor. Even the guys at NASA can't yet develop the technology required. The hurdles are significant.
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answer is yes. Crystal radios have always worked

quiet.

for the receiver to receive.

electricity bill, the answer is no. The amount of

reason no one uses a crytal radio for their listening

component

People build them out of interest. I did, many years ago. I strongly doubt that anyont uses them as a practical way of listening to radio broadcasts.

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"which would lower CO2 emissions by using less expensive off-peak electrical power."

It only lowers CO2 emissions if that off-peak power comes from nuclear power plants. Otherwise it will usually come from coal.

"During daytime peak power times, the Solar Hydrogen Station can export renewable electricity to the grid, providing a cost benefit to the customer, while remaining energy neutral."

Now, while possibly true, that's just plain dishonest. Energy neutrality is one thing. Carbon neutrality is another. If you're using colar fire generation at night, and then displacing gas fired generation (typically) using solar power during the day, then you may be energy neutral, but there will still be a significant net CO2 production, because coal fired generation produces more CO2 per unit energy output than does gas fired generation.

Sylvia.

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