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Re: can digital get picture if analog TV is weak?



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May be on to something there :-)
I have an old antenna that has been in use for 15 years, with a couple of
TVs.
(roof mounted, and I am approx 15 Kms from Mt Cootha TV towers)
Bought a 101cm Samsung LCD two months ago, and set it to auto tune in the
stations, the tuner "failed" to select any analogue stations, but then
searched in digital mode and tuned in all the stations with excellent
reception.
I also have foxtel, so no problems here :-)
btw, the Samsung is great.



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  So,   we could  say that your  15 year old antenna, is a  digital only
antenna, seeing as  it  failed  to  tune any analogue  signals.

Now  all the  experts  will tell  you that, the  Tuner was  digital,  so why
would it  tune  analogue.   but the facts are the  facts, and  your
watching  your  Samsung,  and  as  you say  there  good  shit.
Well  done,

And  by the  by,  our  know-all  mate,  with the  digital  antenna  link,
 I suggest  you  check out  the  Strathfield  catalogue, [back page]  It
shows  the  dead  spit  of  your  32 element UHF / VHF antenna.
$59.95.  No talk about it  being  digital   AT ALL

                                                  bassett



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At least you now realise you are a dickhead. Anyone can get lucky, but there
is no evidence that "all" the other dickheads have perfect reception.

MrT.



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There is and lots of it but it is anecdotal

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"a t e c 7 7" <"atec 77 at hotmail dot com"> wrote in message
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the
there

I fail to see how any unspecified anecdotes can prove ALL dickheads have
perfect reception, but I will accept you have just provided one example at
least.

MrT.



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trying to make a funny point again I see T , and failing

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"a t e c 7 7" <"atec 77 at hotmail dot com"> wrote in message
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Trying would be the  operative  word  "atec"   He  trying  all  right,
Bloody  trying.   I think  someone  pissed in the  puddle  he was playing
in.
                                                         bassett
 



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Never  mind,   you  see that's the  difference   between a  dichhead and a
fuckwit,  But  you will learn that  when  you  reach the age of  six.

                                                       bassett



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Who told you then?

MrT.



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Who told  me what, "Petal"



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bassett

I think it's more of a "Dont confuse me with the facts.. my minds made
up"
situation Bassett!


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"bassett"

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 ** Peeeeeeuuuuuueeeeeeeee  !!!

" bassett "  just did a very smelly fart ........

Outside, doggy  -   outside right now .....




.......  Phil





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This  thread  now  degenerates down to  Phil's  level,  Do  not  pass  go,
do  not  collect  200,  go  back  to   Aus Hi-Fi, and annoy  no-one
                                                             bassett



Re: can digital get picture if analog TV is weak?


So, you obviously never worked in the industry!

With digital signals, if the signal is on the edge, it will start to give
pixellations. This is because parts of the data packets can be missing due
to the noise level being too high in relation to the weak signal. As for
antennas, they can be very sophisticated with distribution amplifiers and
etc.  I am not talking about a simple pice of wire, which is not realy a
very high performance type antenna!


Below is an example of many instances where TV pixelation has occurred due
to poor reception.

________________________________________________________

From:
http://calypso.tux.org/pipermail/novalug/2007-June/006197.html

Now to the problems:
TV Pixelation: I had a tech tell me that the TV signal strength was
borderline and that would potentially cause some pixelation.  There was a
ticket open to look into this since June 3rd and I have been told to call
weekly as long as the problem persists.  The real problem is that this will
affect all 24 people who share a fiber termination point with me ..but
because I am the first they are not getting enough complaints to come out
and fix it yet.  Its a minor annoyance and we encounter maybe 15 seconds of
it a night and I have yet to see it once on a recorded program.

Outage: 3 days after they installed the service ..it stopped working ..not
everything mind you just the Phone and internet.  So I call tech support
..and I am routed into an IVR system that does the diagnostic for you then
opens a ticket ..no option for a human being.  I was told I should have a
fix by 6 hours later (8pm on a thursday).

Well 4 hours later I call back to check ..still stuck in the IVR system I am
told the ticket won't be fixed for 24 hours.  So the following day from work
I connect to Verizons web support chat, where I am told that the box on my
house( a module in the NID) is not communicating correctly.  Long story
short ..no tech on Friday either but I got angry enough to get through to a
human being on the phone (via cell of course as the home phone is dead) and
got promised a tech first thing Saturday morning.  So first thing Sat ..tech
shows up, he replaces a module inside the NID ..calls in to activate it
..and POOF problem fixed.


___________________________________________________________



--

JANA
_____


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What in heavens name does a cable problem with
Verizon have to do with AUSTRALIAN digital TV?
This is an Australian newsgroup and we use DVB
not ATSC which is totally different in transmission
methods.


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*** cough ****
*** cough ****

ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT.
You have a signal that gives a picture but it breaks up and pixellates. I
would regard that as BAD!



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And if it  doesn't  break up or pixellate,  that's  GOOD,
 have you always been a  Fuck-wit, or  did  Centrelink retrain  you.

                                                          bassett



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It's my experience that most digital receivers give a small amount of pixel
break-up infrequently with a strong signal, and a large amount of frequent
break-up, or no picture at all with a very weak signal.
The performance of digital tuners varies just as much as analog tuners,
however frequent digital drop-outs can be even more annoying than a poor
analog signal IMO.

I suggest you simply try a STB that can be returned if unusable in your
location.

MrT.




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On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:36:52 -0700, snipped-for-privacy@ml1.net wrote in
aus.tv.digital, [aus.electronics]:

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I have very variable analogue reception here in a unit in Hamilton,
Brisbane. At some time, each channel is hardly watchable, especially
ch.7; at other times, they are all bearable.

However, the digital reception is pretty close to perfect. There are
occasional pixelations, picture break-ups and annoying loud audio
artifacts, but they may well be the result of the tuner.

To answer the question: get a STB and try it - you've got nothing to
lose.

--
Michael Bednarek   http://mbednarek.com/ "POST NO BILLS"

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The only sure way to know is to borrow a stb and try - remember you don't
need any reception below ch6 (analog) for digital channels and that gets rid
of a lot of noise. A friend who lives in the direct shadow of a shopping
centre in the inner west of Sydney has absolutely no analog reception but
when he installed a Fracarro digital antenna he was able to pick up all
Sydney digital stations by pointing the antenna at a building nearly 90
degrees off the correct normal direction - his only panic is if they ever
redevelop that 5 story block of units!  So it's worth getting an Antenna
specialist out to do some in situ measurements...



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